Members Sad Darwin Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 I'm looking for a glitchy but controllable oscillating fuzz pedal that doesn't lose bass and mids quite as much as a ZVex Fuzz Factory. It would be preferable to have the Osc mode stompable as well. It's looking to me that the Experimentalists Anonymous Parallel Universe and the Red Witch Fuzz God 2 are good candidates. The Wolf Computer seems to definitely fit the description as well. A major problem is that it's impossible to try out most of these types of pedals without actually buying them, as most stores don't stock them. Which ones would you say would fit the bill guys? Also is there anyone here that has played all three or any number of the Wolf Computer, Parallel Universe, or Red Witch Fuzz God 2? How do they compare with regards to what I'm looking for here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PeelingPaint98 Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 Though the price is a problem for some the Death By Audio Supersonic Fuzz Gun is great at doing just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sad Darwin Posted August 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 Though the price is a problem for some the Death By Audio Supersonic Fuzz Gun is great at doing just that. Money isn't really that much of an issue as I'd rather buy what I'm ACTUALLY looking for once rather than have a million pedals that are almost what I'm looking for, and end up spending the same amount anyway. From what I've seen of the DBA fuzz gun it sort of thins out when the Osc kicks in, or is that just a case of {censored}ty online demo-itis? Every demo I've seen seems to portray it as exclusively top end-y and well paint peeling. Which is fine, those pedals need to exist too, but does the fuzz gun do low buzzy drones and glitchyness well? That's kinda what I'm aiming for here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paperhouse Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 the ultra lord has tons of bass and a scoop control. it's not as out of control as a FF but it gets some crazy noises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csharr2 Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 v8 fuzz has a thick tone and it oscillates well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sad Darwin Posted August 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 the ultra lord has tons of bass and a scoop control. it's not as out of control as a FF but it gets some crazy noises. Definitely looking to focus more on the glitchy sort of sputtering off 8 bit ish side of these fuzzes, as well as the low synth drone element they can provide. So probably shooting for crazy noises, not so much the classic "great fuzz tone" part. I have other stuff that can do that. Hope that clarifies, but thanks for the suggestions thusfar. I'm checking them all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mmmmmchina Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 i'm kinda selling a fuzz god II.but kinda not. i really like the oscillation side of it and the fuzz itself is pretty versatile... but must of all it's sound is pretty much worked into a couple of my bands songs at this point. so i think i might miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sporky McGuffin Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 The Parallel Universe I tried was magnificent - very controllable but full of spluttery, gated, oscillating fuzz goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sad Darwin Posted August 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 i'm kinda selling a fuzz god II. but kinda not. That kinda doesn't envoke alot of consumer confidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PeelingPaint98 Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 While I like the Ultra Lord and it does wicked strange stuff at different settings I don't think it really does what the OP wants.As far as the DBA thinning I've not really noticed that, because of compression from uploading I don't think sound wise you're going to hear anything on the internet that matches it's real world sound. That said I also don't think you're going to find any osscilating fuzz that doesn't thin a bit because the ear is way more likely to hear treble than bass and osscilation by nature is a little out of control.The gate on the DBA pedal is pretty strong which is why I've kept both it and the Ultra Lord, the gate effect on the UL is weak in comparison and the pedal over all is a very different flavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StompboxMan Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 I've played a Fuzz Factory since 97. My focus has always been on it's wild fuzz tone. The more it clips my attack frequencies the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sad Darwin Posted August 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 I also don't think you're going to find any osscilating fuzz that doesn't thin a bit because the ear is way more likely to hear treble than bass and osscilation by nature is a little out of control.The gate on the DBA pedal is pretty strong which is why I've kept both it and the Ultra Lord, the gate effect on the UL is weak in comparison and the pedal over all is a very different flavor. Ok, that being said, how does this pedal fair with low buzzy drones and psuedo synth glitchyness? I'm hoping to find a pedal that can do a pretty good gated squarewave impression, as well as have a thick sounding drone that pulls the notes down mid lead in a sort of computer malfunctioning fashion. Not terribly treble heavy. Will it handle that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members butterknucket Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 [YOUTUBE]hFq3GDsC_tE&feature=user[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PeelingPaint98 Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 Ok, that being said, how does this pedal fair with low buzzy drones and psuedo synth glitchyness? I'm hoping to find a pedal that can do a pretty good gated squarewave impression, as well as have a thick sounding drone that pulls the notes down mid lead in a sort of computer malfunctioning fashion. Not terribly treble heavy. Will it handle that? Yes, I will try to do a clip later tonight doing just this to see if it fits your bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StompboxMan Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 I was just playing my Fuzz Factory in a 7-4-5-7 setting where Stab has rolled off highs and drones in a low frequency. As I play the sound fades to the drone or can be switched to it with hand mute. If I lower my guitar volume to the point of the shortest fade time where I can play the drone and a low frequency fuzz tone it sounds like my synth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sad Darwin Posted August 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 Sorry man, that's not even remotely what I'm talking about. Not seeking the holy grail of auto porn. Plus every EH demo this guy plays on takes their product down a couple notches because he plays like such a cliched hacky douche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sad Darwin Posted August 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 Yes, I will try to do a clip later tonight doing just this to see if it fits your bill. That would seriously be amazing of you to do and extremely helpful. I'm essentially (atm) down to the DBA SuperSonic Fuzz Gun, The EA Parallel Universe, and The Red Witch Fuzz God II. I know there are ton out there as well, but many are already ruled out because of all of the above mentioned. Thanks PeelingPaint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StompboxMan Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 Here's a Fuzz Factory MP3 download clip I made of a 7-4-5-7 setting mentioned above. http://www.savefile.com/files/1759816 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAtomicJeff Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 Plus every EH demo this guy plays on takes their product down a couple notches because he plays like such a cliched hacky douche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aussy Posted August 30, 2008 Members Share Posted August 30, 2008 Disaster fuzz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PeelingPaint98 Posted August 31, 2008 Members Share Posted August 31, 2008 Alright, well the clips will have to go without as I'm picking up clock noise from somewhere on my 2880 and the clips sound like {censored} so I'll just have to tell you what I found.I think I will revise my earlier opinion and say between the DBA and Ultra Lord you'd be better off with the Ultra Lord. The gate on the DBA is too strong to do the pull down note fade. I watched my EQ and both retain bass and mids well if you want them too, actally with the volume rolled back in the glitch settings I was using on the UL bass was actally added as it faded out, did a 2-4 octave fade depending on settings and strings.The DBA does some really wacky stuff 8 bit low fi and the like but the note fade is not one, at least I couldn't find it, osscilates nice but no note fade, even in osscialtion mode the gate killed it.I've never tried the Parallel Universe so I cannot compare that to what I have tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members butterknucket Posted August 31, 2008 Members Share Posted August 31, 2008 Sorry man, that's not even remotely what I'm talking about. Not seeking the holy grail of auto porn. Plus every EH demo this guy plays on takes their product down a couple notches because he plays like such a cliched hacky douche. Yeah, I mean he's Sheryl Crow's guitarist, owns an amp business, and jams with Mike Campbell...he must suck. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sad Darwin Posted August 31, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2008 Here's a Fuzz Factory MP3 download clip I made of a 7-4-5-7 setting mentioned above. http://www.savefile.com/files/1759816 Thanks for posting that clip. That's definitely the closest I've heard a Zvex FF come to what I'm talking about and definitely opens my mind a bit more to that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sad Darwin Posted August 31, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2008 Yeah, I mean he's Sheryl Crow's guitarist, owns an amp business, and jams with Mike Campbell...he must suck. :rolleyes: A point of differentiation. I'm not {censored}ting on Electro Harmonix, it's just that I don't find Sheryl Crow, Mike Campbell, owning an amp business, or his playing inspiring, exciting, or new in any way. Point of differentiation. Let's move on. But ON THE TOPIC, the Tube Zipper isn't even close to what I was referring to (specific qualities in an Oscillating Fuzz). I think most people here are helping though. Thanks for trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sad Darwin Posted August 31, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2008 The gate on the DBA is too strong to do the pull down note fade. I watched my EQ and both retain bass and mids well if you want them too, actally with the volume rolled back in the glitch settings I was using on the UL bass was actally added as it faded out, did a 2-4 octave fade depending on settings and strings.The DBA does some really wacky stuff 8 bit low fi and the like but the note fade is not one, at least I couldn't find it, osscilates nice but no note fade, even in osscialtion mode the gate killed it. Yeah, I've done a bit more research on the Fuzz Gun and I definitely does seem to be able to put out some lofi grinding low end, but as you said in every clip I've come across it seems to litterally devour the note. So you probably can't pull one of those "lead that jumps back down to the low drone with computer glitches on the way down" type things right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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