Members starfish Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 No matter which of the two establishment candidates win the 2008 election it will illustrate that the vast majority of Americans want more big government. Blind nation. McBama '08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members friendlybunny Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 I'm not decided on a candidate yet, but I hardly think age is a disqualifier. I really can't understand the desire to count someone out because they have more experience on this earth.Honestly, I can think of some much more obvious reasons to not vote for McCain. How the hell can you be undecided??!?!?!?! How different could the candidates be? If you vote for Johnny Maverick, you might as well be voting for the stupid idiot from Alaska. Mr. Maverick looks like he already has one foot in the casket. He doesn't even know how to use the internets!!!!! And by the way, Maverick is code for voting with the Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members friendlybunny Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 No matter which of the two establishment candidates win the 2008 election it will illustrate that the vast majority of Americans want more big government. Blind nation. McBama '08. Yes we do! Look what's happening with non-regulation. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oceanofnoise Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 No matter which of the two establishment candidates win the 2008 election it will illustrate that the vast majority of Americans want more big government. Blind nation. McBama '08. What would you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TechBrother Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 I didn't watch the debate last night due to a gig but during previous debates my friends and I played the McCain drinking game. Here's how it works: Everytime McCain whistles thru his teeth while speaking you gotta drink. Sometimes you'll drink half a beer during the response to one question. He sounds almost as bad as Herbert from Family Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ambys Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 On every Drudgereport poll after these debates McCain has slayed Obama. I don't know if it's because more right-wing leaning people read the Drudgereport or not, I just read it for news headlines, but if it's any indication then Obama may be getting pwned come election day. And on every scientific poll, Obama has beaten McCain. Drudge is a good source for what might be news, but he's a right wing hack--and he doesn't deny it. Of course more Republicans visit his site than Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCTC Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 Everytime McCain whistles thru his teeth while speaking you gotta drink. Sometimes you'll drink half a beer during the response to one question. He sounds almost as bad as Herbert from Family Guy.Obama speaks so eloquantly in comparison to ol' whistle tooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LoudAsBalls Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 McCain just heard my massive rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 McCain just heard my massive rig. or obama farted on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starfish Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 Yes we do! Look what's happening with non-regulation. Not good. Government was created in the U.S. to protect individual rights. By that standard, protection against banking scams is desirable. However if you knew history, you wouldn't have made that comment. Central banking has failed every time in U.S. history. A private central bank, emitting bills of credit (fiat money), and deficit spending are unconstitutional. If government were limited as intended, "non-regulation" as you put it would sound a bit absurd. It's funny to watch the circus around these two fake candidates. It's just so damn easy to get America into the primal tribal warfare mindset, like a football match, but there are only two teams and 'home' loses every time. How believable is it that the two selected candidates in 2004, out of 300+ million population, belonged to the most exclusive secret society in the U.S. linked to the founding of the OSS, which became CIA. No more so than the current selected candidates I imagine. Most of us hate the mainstream media which clearly lied and was complicit in the Iraq war propaganda, ignoring a true investigation of 9/11 ( no matter what your beliefs, questioning the the topic is off limits in the media), and they pushed bailout propaganda, the private Federal Reserve, etc. And here we are again, don't you think whichever candidate the MSM is pushing so hard is going to be the wrong choice? Are we really that stupid? What does America mean anyway? Isn't it the foundation, the Constitution and Bill of Rights? Or is it global imperial socialism - McBama '08? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kismet78 Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 And bought and paid for by their parent companies and major advertisers. Hrm. Absolutely. Troublesome.I was referring to the leanings of the CNN viewership as being more across-the-board and how that would lend itself to better poll results. In contrast, a Fox "news" poll consists of all O'reilly and Buchanan types phoning in. Fox doesn't even pretend to put together a polling/focus group of undecideds or independent voters like the real news players have been doing. No wonder their polls are not inline with any of the other major polls.I do watch Fox "News" for the lulz though. The haircuts seen there are legendary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kismet78 Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 Government was created in the U.S. to protect individual rights. By that standard, protection against banking scams is desirable. However if you knew history, you wouldn't have made that comment. Central banking has failed every time in U.S. history. A private central bank, bills of credit, and deficit spending are is unconstitutional. If government were limited as intended, "non-regulation" as you put it would sound a bit absurd. wat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starfish Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 wat Not Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kismet78 Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 There are two types of people who believe in deregulation/limited government: 1. Those who believe in the inherent goodness of people, even when vast sums of money/power are involved. This is silly, dangerously silly. 2. Those who can't wait to get their dirty mits on all that unregulated power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kismet78 Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 Not Canada. I'm dual and vote in both countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gschmittling Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 I'm dual and vote in both countries. I want to be you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members friendlybunny Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 Government was created in the U.S. to protect individual rights. By that standard, protection against banking scams is desirable. However if you knew history, you wouldn't have made that comment. Central banking has failed every time in U.S. history. A private central bank, emitting bills of credit (fiat money), and deficit spending are unconstitutional. If government were limited as intended, "non-regulation" as you put it would sound a bit absurd. If you think the sole job of government should be to "protect" the Constitution and Bill of Rights, then you are truly crazy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sad Darwin Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 I'm dual and vote in both countries.Me too I was born in Vancouver BC to an American mother, although I currently live in Seattle WA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SUPER VELCROBOY Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 i love how people link to wiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LoudAsBalls Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starfish Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 There are two types of people who believe in deregulation/limited government:1. Those who believe in the inherent goodness of people, even when vast sums of money/power are involved. This is silly, dangerously silly.2. Those who can't wait to get their dirty mits on all that unregulated power. Nonsense. Limited government = freedom. It is also a fact that the U.S. was founded on limited government to protect individual freedom. Don't twist the definition to meet your low standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starfish Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 Government was created in the U.S. to protect individual rights. This of course refers directly to the language in the Declaration of Independence - "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,..." Of course, the Constitution and The Bill of Rights are the highest laws protecting these rights by restraining the function of government (Constitution), and detailing 'Unalienable Rights' (see above) that pre-exist formation of govenment - Bill of Rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starfish Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 I'm dual and vote in both countries. I don't blame you. Canada is one of the only countries that is less free than the U.S. and U.K. these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T Stre Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 Let's just have a monarchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TZR Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 this is so freaking sexy for some reason.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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