Members (Metal)lica Posted November 30, 2008 Members Share Posted November 30, 2008 Death Magnetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inabox Posted November 30, 2008 Members Share Posted November 30, 2008 this is a blasphemy, i know some people didnt like it (ok computer was their peak ican be understand) but production wise this is a masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members christianatl Posted November 30, 2008 Members Share Posted November 30, 2008 Albini would not agree with you.Also, Def Leppard = gated reverb drums. Not present on "Nevermind". You and Steve close pals, I guess? I think you're referring to the Scott Litt damage factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virex Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 uh.no heroes has better production than any of those albums.of course,i love them all. They are more than just a hardcore band, but "No Heroes" was a hardcore record. Stuff like "Grim Heart/Black Rose" isn't anything compared production-wise to something like "Phoenix in Flight/Flames". They work best with layering which is why the density of "Jane Doe" is so great. But they were also meant to be a 4-piece, and "You Fail Me" is I think pure brilliance. It had a mood to the record and a depth to it despite it's simplicity. It sounds like they wanted a mood and tone for the record more than they did for "No Heroes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virex Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 You and Steve close pals, I guess? I think you're referring to the Scott Litt damage factor. I'm not pulling the snob card like that I swear. I just know Albini would've had his name not on it at all if he could've considering he didn't...never mind. You obviously are aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virex Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 i dont like how circa's new album has no rhythm guitar but it's a wonderful wall of sound otherwise. it's just a weird mix to try to pick up the details I don't think McTernan really knows how to do a wall of sound. God damn would it be magnificent if Circa could work with someone like who the Pumpkins have worked with. Get Alan Moulder in there, or whoever worked on the Mew records. They need to forget about working with anyone and everyone from their hardcore roots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zooLemon Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 Oh and 10,000 Days definitely. It seemed like the producer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ambient Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 I actually think 10,000 days sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suzy Seahorse Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 Dillinger Escape Plan's "Miss Machine" I agree that bad mastering can unravel good production, but here's a case where the engineering and mixing were SO bad that even a great mastering engineer like Alan Douches couldn't save it. It may not be as bad as the Chili Peppers, Metallica, or Smashing Pumpkins (who all round out the rest of my "worst production" list), but at least I can hear what's going on in those records. I can imagine how someone thought they were passable.Miss Machine's mistakes are just baffling and inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tsunamijesus Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 Dillinger Escape Plan's "Miss Machine"I agree that bad mastering can unravel good production, but here's a case where the engineering and mixing were SO bad that even a great mastering engineer like Alan Douches couldn't save it.It may not be as bad as the Chili Peppers, Metallica, or Smashing Pumpkins (who all round out the rest of my "worst production" list), but at least I can hear what's going on in those records. I can imagine how someone thought they were passable.Miss Machine's mistakes are just baffling and inexcusable. what do you hate about miss machine? whenever i listen to it, i cant help but wonder if they meant to record drums without overheads but other than that and the bass being inconsistent, what's so bad about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virex Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 Dillinger Escape Plan's "Miss Machine"I agree that bad mastering can unravel good production, but here's a case where the engineering and mixing were SO bad that even a great mastering engineer like Alan Douches couldn't save it.It may not be as bad as the Chili Peppers, Metallica, or Smashing Pumpkins (who all round out the rest of my "worst production" list), but at least I can hear what's going on in those records. I can imagine how someone thought they were passable.Miss Machine's mistakes are just baffling and inexcusable. Dude everything Douches does is sterile. That's why he's the king of metalcore. Dillinger aren't a metalcore band anymore. I don't think Alan is the one you should be praising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virex Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 I actually think 10,000 days sounds great. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 There is no producer on 10,000 Days. Joe Barresi mixed and engineered it under the direction of the band.Maybe that explains it. The last 3 Mars Volta records. PROTIPS: These are records that I enjoy, but lord almighty is the production bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virex Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 Maybe that explains it. The last 3 Mars Volta records. PROTIPS:You're being harsh on Volta but you're mostly right. Especially on the guitar.Big LOLZ that you mentioned "Adrenaline". Not because you're wrong, but like...holy crap, yeah...we know. Gotta give'em credit thoguh for working well with what they had...I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 You're being harsh on Volta but you're mostly right. Especially on the guitar.Big LOLZ that you mentioned "Adrenaline". Not because you're wrong, but like...holy crap, yeah...we know. Gotta give'em credit thoguh for working well with what they had...I guess. Just so that it's understood, I absolutely love those albums. I just think they could be a lot better if there weren't ultra-compressed wah guitar solos every 5 seconds. It would be nice to hear the keys, sometimes! Adrenaline and Sunny Day have bad production, but that's actually part of why I like those records. They sound like garage bands, and that's exactly what they were, so it's perfect. I'd rather have a patina of rust and verdigris on a record then have it made out of 1,000-watt neon and pleather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Offthiscentury Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 Sunny Day Real Estate DiaryThese are records that I enjoy, but lord almighty is the production bad. What's wrong with Diary? It's not the best sounding production I've ever heard but it's not bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 What's wrong with Diary? It's not the best sounding production I've ever heard but it's not bad at all.Out of tune guitars, poorly mic'd drums, {censored}ty guitar tone. It's great though, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Offthiscentury Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 Haha, word. I put on Seven to see if I was mistaken. I guess the guitars don't sound so great on that one, but if you listen to the intro to the Blankets Were the Stairs that guitar tone is pretty cool IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AnderMocs Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 What's wrong with Diary? It's not the best sounding production I've ever heard but it's not bad at all. The production on that album is pretty {censored}. The songs are really whats important on that record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dreampop6279 Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 Suede's first album doesn't really strike me as sounding very good, but the songs can more than hold their own independent of the production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Let It Burn... Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 The new MGMT is hurting my ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members andrew_face Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 gish are you kidding me? remember what kind of a budget they had on gish vs siamese dream...gish is a fantastically produced record...very psychedelic...some really great tones on siva and bury me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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