Members Jbrazz Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 Should i get a pod or vamp? for my live electronic stuff ill be looping my guitar using my computer by running my guitar straight into it, but i need an amp. those rack vamps are pretty cheap, but how do they hold up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LowWoods Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 Dude, I've seen Behringer's stuff fail so much. Line 6 ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jbrazz Posted December 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 thats what ive been reading. how is that $200 battery powered pod? im really not looking for anything fancy as far as effects go, i just want to have a preamp for my audio interface... should i possibly look elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawzrd Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 The behringers have a patch-change delay that is blatant, so you can pretty much only change patches between songs. Not sure if the L6 stuff shares that problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LowWoods Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 Give me a description of what you are trying to accomplish and with what gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jbrazz Posted December 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 this is really not about effects at all, it just preparing the signal for the audio interface. just to let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jorhay1 Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 i have both hmmm in my little listening test's they sound pretty friggin identical i use the pod more because, i dont know why maybe it's because it has that certain, i dont know what i've never noticed the patch thing being worse on the behri i have the pro for both.maybe it's different. hmmm i now use it only in the studio for composing and not live anymore. can't remember the vamp is in good condition and holding up well maybe because i don't use it much i work the hell out of the pod,,,,,still rockin. maybe the pod has a better build quality but the behringer seems pretty solid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jbrazz Posted December 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 ok here we go. it will be laptop based, a motu audio interface, more than likely the ultra lite. i was looking for a guitar looper that i could midi sync to my monome, but for what im looking for, it would be a huge pain in the ass. so i decided to just run the guitar straight into ableton and use that as my looper. so basically i need a preamp to put into my chain after all me effects, then after the preamp it would go into the interface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LowWoods Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 Ok, you will most likely be dealing with latency issues. This might be a strange suggestion but the Tech 21 trademark amps work really well. They have an XLR out that hits tape extremely well and an active eq as well. The amp itself provides a live monitor. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members smrz Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 If you just want a guitar preamp, I'd go sansamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jorhay1 Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 i would also consider an analog (tube or ss) pre amp that doesn't digitize your signal guitar into pod = A/D conversionpod into interface= D/A conversionInterface into computer=A/D conversion again thats a lot of conversionit might be nice to just have the oneA/D at the interface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jbrazz Posted December 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 well i dont need an amp with a speaker. for the longest time ive been looking for a way to set this all up, and this guy pretty much nailed what i need: [YOUTUBE]VUwOIniJxaA&[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jorhay1 Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 well i dont need an amp with a speaker. correcta preamp with speaker emulation that takes pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jbrazz Posted December 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 correcta preamp with speaker emulation that takes pedals yeah exactly. it doesnt need effects or anything. could i take just a standard preamp pedal and use it that way? if not, my cheap ass crate im using in my dorm has line out, so i can use that for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LowWoods Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 I only suggested an amp with a speaker to combat the latency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jbrazz Posted December 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 I only suggested an amp with a speaker to combat the latency. where is this latency coming form if i dont use an amp with a speaker. and whats the point of buying an amp with the speaker if im not even going to be using the speaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LowWoods Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 where is this latency coming form if i dont use an amp with a speaker.and whats the point of buying an amp with the speaker if im not even going to be using the speaker? The latency comes from the delay time of your interface to the computer (it may not be an issue but it's used to be for me). The speaker in the amp will be used as a live monitor so that you can play with your own playback (via your monitors) and not have to depend on your interface's version of your guitar's input signal (which will most likely be victimized by latency.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jorhay1 Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 yeah exactly.it doesnt need effects or anything.could i take just a standard preamp pedal and use it that way?if not, my cheap ass crate im using in my dorm has line out, so i can use that for now. the problem with using a standard preamp is that its full range your guitar will sound strange (nice for some stuff i guess) guitar speakers are from a few hundred cycles to about 4k to 8k dependingfull range is from 20 cycles to 20k there are plenty to choose from boogie, rocktron, carvin, and much more the new sans amp pedals will work very well, and cheap one thing you should check out is 'the womanizer' its a tube pedal preamp with a speaker emulator, very amp like and takes pedals great i don't have one but checked one out at the suggestion of forumite Agreed, and was very impressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jbrazz Posted December 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 @lowwoods no it doesnt work like that. the signal will go into my computer and loop through ableton. the looping audio will not play through the speaker in the amp, with will play through the monitors, which is perfectly fine. see what im saying? the speaker is irrelevant here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jorhay1 Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 get the fastest most powerful computer you canturn the buffer to 256 or lowerthis is an acceptable amount of latencythat you can work with pods themselves have latency latency is a fact of digital life it's getting better all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LowWoods Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 no it doesnt work like that.the signal will go into my computer and loop through ableton.the looping audio will not play through the speaker in the amp, with will play through the monitors, which is perfectly fine.see what im saying? the speaker is irrelevant here. Yeah, I see what your sayin'. I was thinking about your situation past that where you might want to play along with a loop live. At this point the speaker would come in handy when recording with playback. I'm not fully aware of your whole situation, but hopefully you'll get what you need out of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jbrazz Posted December 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 i mean will be recording on my mac book pro, so, its got some processing power. as long as the pod is plugged straight into the interface, which will be a motu (so no problem with latency there), i dont think ill have a huge problem with latency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jbrazz Posted December 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 Yeah, I see what your sayin'. I was thinking about your situation past that where you might want to play along with a loop live. At this point the speaker would come in handy when recording with playback. I'm not fully aware of your whole situation, but hopefully you'll get what you need out of this thread. i an always a/b to an amp(with speaker) to bypass the computer, just to jam along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LowWoods Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 i an always a/b to an amp(with speaker) to bypass the computer, just to jam along. Jamming along and recording w/ playback can prove to be different beasts. I do think a Sansamp is the way to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shooto Posted December 16, 2008 Members Share Posted December 16, 2008 Line6 toneport- crazy cheap interface w/ all the POD goodies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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