Members JnBroadbent Posted April 19, 2008 Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 I really like the lead tones their keyboardist gets, I've been trying to imitate but no luck. Anyone have an idea in which direction I should be going in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrisebrooks06 Posted April 19, 2008 Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 yeah i love em, but i play guitar but the keyboard parts are really cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oscius Posted April 19, 2008 Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 Not my personal fav. lead sound (even though still good). It is a PWN waveform put through distortion, you can just use two saw or pulse waves detuned by -4 and then some low freq flanger + distortion and other FX crap. I have heard that Jens johansson acualy gave his lead to that dude and he just changed the distorition pedal to big muff, but I dunno. Go check the progsounds.com forums there is a guide to jens lead there, also one dude claimed that he got the acual Jens lead from jens himself and posted some details. Anyway the lead is made with JV-2080 (Roland) rack. Anyway this is my favourite lead: 2:38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JnBroadbent Posted April 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 Not my personal fav. lead sound (even though still good).It is a PWN waveform put through distortion, you can just use two saw or pulse waves detuned by -4 and then some low freq flanger + distortion and other FX crap. I have heard that Jens johansson acualy gave his lead to that dude and he just changed the distorition pedal to big muff, but I dunno.Go check the progsounds.com forums there is a guide to jens lead there, also one dude claimed that he got the acual Jens lead from jens himself and posted some details. Anyway the lead is made with JV-2080 (Roland) rack.Anyway this is my favourite lead:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2SGIzjgXzI 2:38 I've heard the same (about jen giving help to Janne Warmen) Heopfully I can create the same sound with my soft synths. I'm not a keyboardist so I'll be doing the programming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C#minor Posted April 20, 2008 Members Share Posted April 20, 2008 I like the Jens lead a great deal and I think it's very expressive + it's really easy to program on virtually any synth. I think it is maybe more suited to his fusion playing, just listen to the "Heavy Machinery" album, Jens' lead tone offers a great contrast with Holdsworth's guitar tone. As for the Sonata Arctica lead (in the above link), isn't this the Jordan Liquid Lead preset from the Kurzweil K2600? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Darkstorm Posted April 20, 2008 Members Share Posted April 20, 2008 Likes Children of Bodom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JnBroadbent Posted April 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 20, 2008 I like the Jens lead a great deal and I think it's very expressive + it's really easy to program on virtually any synth. I think it is maybe more suited to his fusion playing, just listen to the "Heavy Machinery" album, Jens' lead tone offers a great contrast with Holdsworth's guitar tone. As for the Sonata Arctica lead (in the above link), isn't this the Jordan Liquid Lead preset from the Kurzweil K2600? Well I'm sort on soft synths really, I've got Reason 4 (I bought it becuase it has a lot of sounds) Gforce minimonsta and NI Pro-53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oscius Posted April 20, 2008 Members Share Posted April 20, 2008 I like the Jens lead a great deal and I think it's very expressive + it's really easy to program on virtually any synth. I think it is maybe more suited to his fusion playing, just listen to the "Heavy Machinery" album, Jens' lead tone offers a great contrast with Holdsworth's guitar tone.As for the Sonata Arctica lead (in the above link), isn't this the Jordan Liquid Lead preset from the Kurzweil K2600? Doesn't sound like that AT ALL to me at least. The rumor is henrik uses liquid lead, and it was true for live shows, it sounds a bit tweaked or at least after processed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members epyon77x Posted April 20, 2008 Members Share Posted April 20, 2008 It IS Liquid T preset, just with different outboard effects. Lately its some variant of Jens lead from Jv 2080 racks, but back then he definitely used Liquid T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oscius Posted April 20, 2008 Members Share Posted April 20, 2008 hmm... ok can anyone upload a sample of Liquid T lead here? Use Boss OD-3 as distortion if you happen to own it.Anyway I thought this was the Liquid T lead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4qTlRl_b5s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Speedyjx Posted April 20, 2008 Members Share Posted April 20, 2008 Wirman uses Jen's lead, just runs it through a different effects box. It's supposed to be modelled after a Minimoog. Henrik uses the Kurz preset lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members memedesigner Posted April 20, 2008 Members Share Posted April 20, 2008 North? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JnBroadbent Posted April 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 20, 2008 Wirman uses Jen's lead, just runs it through a different effects box. It's supposed to be modelled after a Minimoog. Henrik uses the Kurz preset lead. I've been trying to finally put my Gforce minimonsta to work but no luck with CoB tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carey M Posted April 21, 2008 Members Share Posted April 21, 2008 I really like COB, but I really dislike their keyboard stuff... I find all the solos really boring... great songs and guitar work, though. - CM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nutter Posted April 21, 2008 Members Share Posted April 21, 2008 The new album is very surprisingly a lot better than the last one. IMO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Speedyjx Posted April 21, 2008 Members Share Posted April 21, 2008 I've been trying to finally put my Gforce minimonsta to work but no luck with CoB tones. Jen's uses Roland modules most of the time, so one would assume that he created it using base samples from it rather than an actual Minimoog. You also would have to take the effects unit into account I guess. Do you mean stuff off their new album though? As I'm pretty certain that Wirman uses a modular synth (or something similar) on some of his leads as well as his standard one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C#minor Posted April 21, 2008 Members Share Posted April 21, 2008 I've been trying to finally put my Gforce minimonsta to work but no luck with CoB tones. The Jens lead can be programmed on any synth with PWM, originally it was made on the Korg PolySix which is, by today's standards, a feature-limited synthesizer when compared with many softsynths. Just follow the article on Luca's site (Progsounds.com) To replicate the sound, there is a problem though. Jens uses a rare distortion pedal made by Morely. So, obviously the final tone will depend on which distortion effect you'll use. Software, I'd suggest you try GuitarRig3 and look for a close match. I don't have it, so I do my best using what I can lay my hands on. FreeAmp3, or Voxengo Boogex are good starting points. I also heard that some players use Rat Proco, or the Big Muff with great results. Best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JnBroadbent Posted December 2, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 I'm back at trying to get a some good key sounds (pads and leads) with Reason 4 and my maudio keyboard. Figured I'd bump this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JnBroadbent Posted December 2, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 http://www.progsounds.com/forum/f50/reason-3-0-jens-johansson-lead-combi-t1055 Great Reason 3 (combinator) patch. Did some tweaking to the distortion to get more of a Janne sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JnBroadbent Posted December 2, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 2, 2008 It's the keyboard solo from FtR, actual song is on the right. I just ripped the solo from a GP file. http://www.box.net/shared/93ube89ft7 I took a Reason 3 patch that was modeled after Jens Johansson sound (from progsounds.com) and did some tweaking. I think I'm getting close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veracohr Posted December 3, 2008 Members Share Posted December 3, 2008 Not my favorite, but I do like to see them live. Very good live band. I've seen them a couple times. It's great how the keyboardist and lead guitarist have "duels". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JnBroadbent Posted December 3, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2008 Bottom of the page ftl- It's the keyboard solo from FtR, actual song is on the right. I just ripped the solo from a GP file. http://www.box.net/shared/93ube89ft7 I took a Reason 3 patch that was modeled after Jens Johansson sound (from progsounds.com) and did some tweaking. I think I'm getting close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted December 3, 2008 Members Share Posted December 3, 2008 Why not making your own lead tone instead of trying to copy someone else's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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