Members O.G.T.V. Posted April 22, 2010 Members Share Posted April 22, 2010 I'm using a Fender Princeton 650 (Solid State amp) and actually using a Boss MT-2 as a dirt pedal. I used to use a Boss OS-2, but replaced it for the MT-2 as a I needed something ''heavier/gainier''. I actually have both pedals, but I do really want a change. I feel that Boss Pedals are kinda fake digital sounding or weak (no good at big shows a la Boss MT-2 Metal Zone) and my playing style is now more like ''hard rock''. I'd been checking around the Radial London Bones pedal & the Visual Sound V2 Series V2JH Jekyll and Hyde pedal as candidates for my new dirt pedal. (This are the links to both pedals.) But I still haven't made my decision and there are not good stores in my island, to try out pedals other than BOSS. http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Radial-Engineering-Bones-R8007105-London-Distortion-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=620001 http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Visual-Sound-V2-Series-V2JH-Jekyll-and-Hyde-Overdrive-and-Distortion-Guitar-Multi-Effects-Pedal?sku=150481 Has any of you have any experience with the pedals I linked here before? Which are their pros and cons? Or should I again...dish the pedals, keep saving for a good guitar tube amp? Keeping it real, I need something lightweight (tube amps are heavy) and I dig my amp clean's & weight.Any other suggestions? Again. I always appreciate all the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrweems Posted April 22, 2010 Members Share Posted April 22, 2010 id get a new amp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goaway Posted April 22, 2010 Members Share Posted April 22, 2010 definitely get a new amp before investing in a dirt pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members redprince Posted April 22, 2010 Members Share Posted April 22, 2010 The J&H is liked by many, though not my cup of tea...not a fan of Visual Sound...H20 = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted April 22, 2010 Members Share Posted April 22, 2010 amp first. something with tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wide Posted April 22, 2010 Members Share Posted April 22, 2010 I'd sell the amp and buy a Peavey Classic 30. It won't do high gain on it's own but takes pedals really well. Those Boss pedals will sound good through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrweems Posted April 22, 2010 Members Share Posted April 22, 2010 and on a side note. I really like the jekyl and hyde. But there are better options out there. And seriously.. New amp son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BillBrasky Posted April 22, 2010 Members Share Posted April 22, 2010 Lovepedal Purple PlexiMI Audio Crunch Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joeyowen Posted April 22, 2010 Members Share Posted April 22, 2010 i have a love hate with my J&H most of the time its love but sometimes i just cannot connect with it would still recommend though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr.Picklebottom Posted April 22, 2010 Members Share Posted April 22, 2010 im trying to be helpful and not demand you replace your amp but...solid state amps are not very predictable in terms of what dirt pedal will sound good with them. youd be best off buying from a shop like guitar center (with a libral return policy), trying the pedal with your amp at home, and return it if it doesnt sound right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Agreed Posted April 22, 2010 Members Share Posted April 22, 2010 Going against the grain here - I think your amp plus a good pedal will give you a sound that makes you very happy. Spending ~$125 on a pedal isn't going to hurt your long-term goal of getting a different amp (if indeed you decide that you must do so). Of the ones you mentioned, well, I know the Radial ToneBone Hot British (from which the London Bones is derived, as I recall) is an excellent pedal, extremely versatile and cleverly designed, so I'm sure the London Bones would sound great too. Here's a clip demonstrating some sounds the Hot British can get. The adjustments on it are highly interactive, but to demonstrate the versatility I maxed the treble and it remains maxed for every sound in this clip. If it can do all this with the treble maxed, imagine what it can do when you start fiddling with more knobs. That's into a Fender Twin's clean channel; your Princeton should have a pretty similar overall sonic profile so you can expect similar enough results I think. And that's with the Treble knob, which has a huge impact on the sound in conjunction with the other adjustments, dimed out the whole time. Listen to all the different kinds of sounds I get using other adjustments, and then think of the range of tones available if you didn't limit yourself like that. Technical note - the Radial Tonebone Hot British (and the other tube pedals they have) use the tube in a starved plate configuration, as a soft clipper. They have diodes, a JMP-1-like configuration, which provide the majority of their actual clipping. The tube is used to soften it up and give it a bit more of a tube-like response, emulate a bit of sag... So turning it from the bigger tube-bearing pedal into a solid state pedal for less money probably just meant using another method to tame the harsher diode clipping. I haven't cracked one open or read anyone who has, but there are a few different ways to do it, and the engineers at Radial are smart people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted April 22, 2010 Members Share Posted April 22, 2010 Go and buy used rat, all will be well....I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members O.G.T.V. Posted April 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 Thank you all for your reviews. I checked every pedal and I liked a couple of them. Sadly (for good or bad), I need something high gainer with goods control (for not so RAW tone). So that means I may need a new amp. I'd been always thinking of a 2x12 combo or 2x12 cab/head combination. What do you people recommend me, for a budget no higher than $1,400 (that includes shipping & handling). Please no Peavey Valvekings! I dislike that amp! Sounds mega-compressed to my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members humancertainty Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 I just scored a Keeley-modded Blues Driver. It just replaced my MI Audio Crunch Box on my board. High gain and not raw.As far as your amp question, I'd look into a an Ampeg VT22/V4 and a cab. You could also find a 50 or 100 watt Marshall SLP reissue and a cab for under $1400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Parah Salin Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 This isn't the place for high gain amp advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members O.G.T.V. Posted April 27, 2010 Author Members Share Posted April 27, 2010 This isn't the place for high gain amp advice. If somebody wants to follow my thread here* http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?p=39664507#post39664507 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.