Members FWAxeIbanez Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 When did this happen? I've never heard of a swamp ash SG, has Gibson done this before? My interest is piqued, and the damn thing looks gorgeous, I just love natural finished guitars... why did Gibson have to do this to me?! http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-SG-Special-Swamp-Ash-Electric-Guitar?sku=518934 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FWAxeIbanez Posted June 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 I did just notice it is part of the "special" line, for a "standard" price tho... hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Japetus Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Damn, I bet that guitar would be so bright sounding!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members potaetoes Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by Japetus Damn, I bet that guitar would be so bright sounding!!!! nope... they're not that much brighter than the normal ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Japetus Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by potaetoes nope... More bright than a regular SG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members potaetoes Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by Japetus More bright than a regular SG? not much. little more balanced, really. SGs are midrange machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Facejackets Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 that looks really nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Japetus Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by potaetoes not much. little more balanced, really. SGs are midrange machines. Yeah, it's just when I think of swamp ash, I always think of bright. I will have to check one of these out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members potaetoes Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 they've been making swamp ash SGs for a while now... remember the voodoo series? those were all swamp ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JimAnsell Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 i too got a little GAS when i saw that. i wish it had binding on the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willy22 Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Any of you guys see the John Sykes limited edition Les Paul in MF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JiroJan Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 the voodoo line was all swamp ash (correct me if im wrong)....lp,v,sg,explorer all of em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Japetus Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by willy22 Any of you guys see the John Sykes limited edition Les Paul in MF? $$$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Megadeth7684 Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by Japetus $$$$$$$$ What is it, like 8 grand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members potaetoes Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by Japetus Yeah, it's just when I think of swamp ash, I always think of bright. I will have to check one of these out. when people think of alder and swamp ash, they think "bright" but it's a complete misconception. single coils and long scales, and hard neck woods are bright, and that's why strats are bright. alder and ash are actually pretty balanced. alder is a little warmer, and ash a little more neutral with a strong low end punch. remember, heavier/denser woods are harder and brighter, lighter woods are warmer. the things that make most gibsons warmer than strats are the neck wood, scale length, and pickups. mahogany is softer than maple, plus the shorter scale and humbuckers = less bright tone. if you built an SG from the same woods as a strat, with an ash or alder body and a maple neck, it would still be a bit less bright than a strat because of the shorter scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FWAxeIbanez Posted June 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by potaetoes they've been making swamp ash SGs for a while now... remember the voodoo series? those were all swamp ash. thats right... didn't those have a little different scale on them too? Aimed for downtuning and all that if I remember correctly... I'm going to have to try one of these dealies out... I tune down really low and don't really want a longer scale, so having it be a bit brighter might fake people out and make them think I'm not so damned low... I fought hard to tune up a bit, but somewhere down the line I decided to pick my battles, so I gave up a bit on the tuning issue... at the same time no one around here quite sounds like us and I attribute part of that to how low we tune... we probably wouldn't be so raw and sludgey if we tuned it back up, so I guess I kinda have to embrace it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrendanO Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by potaetoes when people think of alder and swamp ash, they think "bright" but it's a complete misconception. Alder is a very neurtral wood; swamp ash has a midrange spank too it, which can contribute to being seeing as "bright." Now, if you want bright, get a solid maple job. Maple body with a maple neck. That'd be almost unbearable on a mid/high range instrument like guitar. Sounds okay on bass, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willy22 Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by Megadeth7684 What is it, like 8 grand? http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Custom-Shop-John-Sykes-Les-Paul-Custom-Aged-Electric-Guitar?sku=517971 Btw, that's a friggin sweet Fender you got. Congrats dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FWAxeIbanez Posted June 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by potaetoes when people think of alder and swamp ash, they think "bright" but it's a complete misconception. single coils and long scales, and hard neck woods are bright, and that's why strats are bright. alder and ash are actually pretty balanced. alder is a little warmer, and ash a little more neutral with a strong low end punch. remember, heavier/denser woods are harder and brighter, lighter woods are warmer. the things that make most gibsons warmer than strats are the neck wood, scale length, and pickups. mahogany is softer than maple, plus the shorter scale and humbuckers = less bright tone. if you built an SG from the same woods as a strat, with an ash or alder body and a maple neck, it would still be a bit less bright than a strat because of the shorter scale. I was thinkin about that too... that natural body with an Ebony board would look like sex wouldn't it? except I would imagine that would make it significantly brighter to the point of ruining it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members potaetoes Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by FWAxeIbanez I tune down really low and don't really want a longer scale longer scales are better for lower tunings... hence the longer necks on basses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willy22 Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by BrendanO Now, if you want bright, get a solid maple job. Maple body with a maple neck. That'd be almost unbearable on a mid/high range instrument like guitar. Alot of George Lynch's guitars were built like that and I always thought his lead tone was too bright. His rhythm tone on the other hand.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members potaetoes Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by FWAxeIbanez I was thinkin about that too... that natural body with an Ebony board would look like sex wouldn't it? except I would imagine that would make it significantly brighter to the point of ruining it not really. the actual neck wood and scale length have more of a tonal impact than the fretboard wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members potaetoes Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 btw, this thing is swamp ash, with a 25.5 scale, and it's actually got a ton of low end with neutral mids and top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FWAxeIbanez Posted June 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 Originally posted by potaetoes longer scales are better for lower tunings... hence the longer necks on basses. yeah, I realize that, but a longer scale really does effect the tone... I would rather just deal with the scale size and get a brighter axe or pups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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