Members Groover Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Hi,you can see short demos on my Web:Roland RD700GX PianoKit SuperNATURALClavia NordPiano Groover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Hey, nice demos. How is the action on the NordPiano btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Piano Man Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nice demo's. Both pianos sound good. I would say the Nord sounds more realistic. In that middle range, the Roland sounds ever so slightly artificial in my opinion and seems to lose a bit of power. Regarding the action, the RD definitely has the better piano action but then you pay for it with the weight of the board. 25kg compared to the Nord @18kg. What does everyone else think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tonyrobbins Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 nord wins on the natural part, but maybe roland will make some better patches ,.but srx exp slots are a plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Piano Man Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 but srx exp slots are a plus Are you suggesting that the piano sounds on the srx series boards, namely SRX-02 and SRX-11, are actually better than what is available on the Supernatural Expansion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomkeen Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 The Nord has a much fuller, richer sound, based on these demos. Something about the Roland doesn't sound quite right, though I don't really know what... Props to Roland though for really improving their piano sound. So much better than the standard samples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Piano Man Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Props to Roland though for really improving their piano sound. So much better than the standard samples. Really? I thought the stock "Expressive Grand" sounded pretty good here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomkeen Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Pretty hard to say with that much background noise... While it might sound good on it's own, my experience is that Rolands piano's easily get lost in a (rock) band mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Piano Man Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Pretty hard to say with that much background noise... While it might sound good on it's own, my experience is that Rolands piano's easily get lost in a (rock) band mix. Indeed, that is a crucial factor for a lot of people. I used to own a Roland RD-150 which struggled to cut through in the mid range. I actually think my old Technics P30 does a decent job but lacks a certain presence. So, Tomkeen, you also own a Kurzweil PC3 right? What do you think has the better piano sounds then? The Nord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomkeen Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 So, Tomkeen, you also own a Kurzweil PC3 right? What do you think has the better piano sounds then? The Nord? The Kurz's piano samples are old. Really old, lol... They're not bad at all, and the VAST engine really gets a lot out of them. The Kurz is very very playable, dynamic, and it cuts through the mix like one of my butcher knives through a high quality filet mignon. But I do think the Nord has better samples, yes. I played a couple of different samples on a friends Nord Stage (the older ones) and I like them better than the PC3x's. I have high hopes for their new big-ass samples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nillerbabs Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 So do I, Tom. My hope is that they - and the upright- and rhodes-samples - will be released one of these Messe days. I do realize that the Piano is indeed a "piano", but looking at the picture just below the uToob vid, 88 keys inevitably just is huge. They should've made / must make (for me!) a 76 version at some point, my guess is that more people will be buying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I have high hopes for their new big-ass samples. Has Kurz confirmed that they'll have new piano samples for their expansion board/boards? Or perhaps for loading into their new PC3K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomkeen Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Has Kurz confirmed that they'll have new piano samples for their expansion board/boards? Or perhaps for loading into their new PC3K? No I meant the new Nord samples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Piano Man Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 They should've made / must make (for me!) a 76 version at some point, my guess is that more people will be buying that. I would agree. Since one of the benefits of the Nord is its relatively light weight, it would be even better to make it as compact as possible. It is not like it has an ivory touch wooden key action, so its main market will not be for people playing classical masterpieces. Rather, it is surely aimed at gigging musicians looking for a great piano sound in a lightweight pro keyboard. From that point of view, 76 makes good sense. It is of course called the "Nord Piano 88", suggesting that a "76" could yet arrive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nillerbabs Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I believe Tom was referring to the new set of Nord samplesets? And oh yearh, speaking of size, Korg might just be able to finally reduce the size of those bloody big 88-key DP's... Introducing: MicroPiano with 88 mini keys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomkeen Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 So do I, Tom. My hope is that they - and the upright- and rhodes-samples - will be released one of these Messe days.I do realize that the Piano is indeed a "piano", but looking at the picture just below the uToob vid, 88 keys inevitably just is huge. They should've made / must make (for me!) a 76 version at some point, my guess is that more people will be buying that. I think that between the Electro, Stage and now Piano that Nord feel there is enough choice if you want a 76-key model. And I'd think the Piano would weigh much less than the average 88-key board, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nillerbabs Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Yea, but so would the Stage. The 76 weighted option is indeed there, but it's a lot more expensive than the Piano, and therefore not really able to compete with SV-1 73.At least, I'd love a 76 key Piano. I've heard others who agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomkeen Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I'd more than love a rack version of the Stage/Piano. All those gorgeous piano/rhodes samples and the organs :D Something like that would really gel with my PC3x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 No I meant the new Nord samples Oh. Well, that's one big plus I have to give to Nord: the ability to load in new samples all the time. I wish more manufactures would do this as you buy a ROMpler and then you're stuck with all the onboard sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miket156 Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 by Goofball Jones:I wish more manufactures would do this as you buy a ROMpler and then you're stuck with all the onboard sounds. That depends on what kind of rompler you buy. I have a MotES8 and it has a sampler. I can load up all the sounds from the Yamaha Motif library provided I have enough sample RAM (it supports 1GB). The ES series has USB 1.1 and is somewhat slower than 2.0, but I load up sounds and save them into User Patches. I can save those sounds in the Song mode tracks. When I load up a song, the sampled sounds are loaded with the song, so it doesn't take all that long. I load an entire set of songs before I start a set and it takes less than a minute. I have also used some nice string sounds from Yamaha's library and saved them with songs too. I can also buy 3rd party sounds at reasonable prices. I don't feel like I'm stuck with my ES8. I have it over 5 years and it still sounds great and does the job. I like the Nord piano sound better than the Roland. However, both of them sound very good. Think back to what we were playing 10 or 15 years ago and I'd say they're all good. Cheers, Mike T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Piano Man Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I like the Nord piano sound better than the Roland. However, both of them sound very good. Think back to what we were playing 10 or 15 years ago and I'd say they're all good. Agreed. I was only 9 fifteen years ago and was using a Yamaha PSS something or other! Regarding the Nord, the other advantage is the variety of acoustic piano sounds. They seem to have finally nailed a good bright sound that would cut through a mix well, yet they also have warmer sounds like the new upright samples etc. Looking forward to hearing the Bosendorfer samples that are on their way. Then Nord will offer Steinway, Yamaha, Bosendorfer, Schimmel and Petrof. Not a bad selection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nillerbabs Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 ... And just the Schimmel is so good that at this point I probably wouldn't hesitate using it in situations where you might expect a grand. The uprights are so extremely fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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