Members HalTan Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 AIDS is the syndrome caused by the HIV virus.Yay. First post.(Btw. You're an idiot ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scottosan Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by CFH1919ETERNAL ok, what im saying is anything that can be avoided, is not a disease. so now, the only defining factor on whether something is a disease is whether it's avoidable? That's an ignorant comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ratter Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 I could've avoided retardation by not reading this thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scottosan Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by blargh I'm a little curious, why do you think depression is not a disease? Is someone's brain chemistry their choice? It is a disease for pussies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scottosan Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by T2Russo obesity can be caused by chemical imbalences in the body, or an abnormally slow metabolismalcoholism can be exaserbated by genetic predispositiondepression is caused by chemical imbalences in the brainobesity and alcoholism can be dealt with by simple abstinence, depression cannotya gotta think a bit more about what these things are Most people that suffer from depression, have had something happen, in their life that can be attributed to causing them depression. Many have been abused, many have made poor social or financial decisions, some are children raised in non-optimal environment. To me, depression is a condition, nothing more. Everyone goes through hard times, it comes down to how you have been conditioned to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markus RN Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by CFH1919ETERNAL How come a 5 year old smiles at his birthday and has a great childhood, then reaches 18, gets dumped and is forever {censored}ed? I worked in a psychiatric hospital on the children's unit for 10 years. There are plenty of 5 year olds with psychiatric illnesses, including depression. You are truly an idiot. -Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dethmetalanimal Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by CFH1919ETERNAL i had a discussion earler tonight about diseases. i think that obesity, aids, alcoholism, depression etc etc is not a disease. I believe theyre all choices. And diseases are more like retardation, crippleness, etc etc. what do you think? Discuss retardation, crippleness are handicapes, not diseases. i didn't read the rest of the post, but this has got to be a troll thread right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by dethmetalanimal i didn't read the rest of the post, but this has got to be a troll thread right? No, I think the consensus is that CFH just really is a complete moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markus RN Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by scottosan Most people that suffer from depression, have had something happen, in their life that can be attributed to causing them depression. Many have been abused, many have made poor social or financial decisions, some are children raised in non-optimal environment. To me, depression is a condition, nothing more. Everyone goes through hard times, it comes down to how you have been conditioned to deal with it. This is absolutley untrue. The depression was there before these conditions existed, and the depression was exacerbated by lifestyle choices and events. If a complete psychosocial history is taken, research shows hat this is the case. Someone who is depressed doesn't necessarily make optimal choices. Also, I have cared for plenty of people who suffer from depression and have, as some would say, 'no reason' to be depressed, as they are well off, normal childhoods, positive choices in their life, etc. Being depressed is a condition or mood, but suffering from depression is something completely different. -Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markus RN Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by CFH1919ETERNAL ... diseases are more like retardation... Then it's obvious you have a disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members potaetoes Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 btw, Kary Mullis has some interesting things to say about the relationship between HIV and AIDS. it's not as simple as it might seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gafyagaton Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 A disease is any abnormal condition of the body or mind that causes discomfort, dysfunction, or distress to the person affected or those in contact with the person. Sometimes the term is used broadly to include injuries, disabilities, syndromes, symptoms, deviant behaviors, and atypical variations of structure and function, while in other contexts these may be considered distinguishable categories. Another definition of disease. I think the problem is that you dont know the definition of disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Matter-Eater Lad Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 People are obese because they eat HUGE portions. It's not a disease. I'll never buy that one. I don't care how many studies are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Deicide1 Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by T2Russo obesity can be caused by chemical imbalences in the body, or an abnormally slow metabolismalcoholism can be exaserbated by genetic predispositiondepression is caused by chemical imbalences in the brainobesity and alcoholism can be dealt with by simple abstinence, depression cannotya gotta think a bit more about what these things are I think this is all far-fetched bull{censored} that has been brought to us by the good ole' doctors that speak as if their knowledge is truth. The doctors that have said the above have no real proof of anything. Our knowledge of the human body, and the world, for that matter, is infinitely smaller than what anyone would care to admit. I think all of the above, minus a few rare cases of obesity, can all be fixed by a strong mind. The way I look at is this; life is no longer about survival of the fittest, meaning there are both mentally and physically weak people that would not have survived less than a century ago. Because of this, we're seeing an influx in the weak and all of their traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarzan Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by gafyagaton abnormal Your text quote is correct. Now the question could be; what is normal? Without looking for the cut & paste, LOL. Peace out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gafyagaton Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by Matter-Eater Lad People are obese because they eat HUGE portions. It's not a disease. I'll never buy that one. I don't care how many studies are done. There is such thing as an over-eater....but come on. YOu gotta know by now that obesity is something that runs in families because of its strong connection to genetics. People who are overweight are not just in a battle with food... but often with their own genetic design. And some people are overweight because they have problems with metabolism and dont burn off that half of pizza as easily as you or I do. That is not "choice". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members proudmore Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 I think you are a disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteveVHT Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by CFH1919ETERNAL i had a discussion earler tonight about diseases. i think that obesity, aids, alcoholism, depression etc etc is not a disease. I believe theyre all choices. And diseases are more like retardation, crippleness, etc etc. what do you think? Discuss So you are saying that these things that have been medically proven to be diseases are not...OK....dumbass...LOLSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rememberduane Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 This is the most retarded thread ever. Are you going to tell a child born with AIDS that he made a choice? How about someone with an unfaithful spouse or partner? Someone who was raped? Yeah.. they made some bad choices. Like... being born.. Or loving their wife.. Or walking home from work. I honestly wish people like you weren't allowed the same rights as everyone else. You should be kept in "idiot camp" and forced to gain a basic understanding of the world before you are let back out. Obesity can be and is a disease. Just because a bunch of stupid Americans have no sense of self control doesn't mean all or even most obese people are like that. It is called a metabolic disorder. Alcoholism and other abusive/addictive issues are a choice, but are exacerbated by genetic predisposition and even uncontrollable social circumstance. Depression can be caused by chemical imbalance. Some people with seemingly nothing wrong can be chemically imbalanced and have psychological disorders such as depression or anxiety. I'll tell you that because my mom has an anxiety disorder due purely to a chemical imbalance caused by her thyroid gland. Frankly? Anyone who disagrees with any of the above can go eat a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aliensex Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 I think you need to stop having discussions about stuff until you have at least a fleeting grasp of the stuff you're discussing. :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rememberduane Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by aliensex I think you need to stop having discussions about stuff until you have at least a fleeting grasp of the stuff you're discussing. :I Precisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members '63-Strat Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 And another moron makes my ignore list. ...karma's a bitch, btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gafyagaton Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by guitarzan Your text quote is correct. Now the question could be; what is normal? Without looking for the cut & paste, LOL.Peace out. Abnormal is anything that makes you (or a doctor) ... look twice. If I'm walking down the street and a guy passing me casually in the other direction says "nice day today".. i'll just say "oh yah! zippity doo dah!" and mosey on my way. But.. if he says "nice day today but the satanic bat that lives in my left lung keeps ruining it".. then I'm going to look at him twice.. cause he has mental illness disease. If we are on a beach and see the skelton cage of a girl with eating disorders laying around in her bikini.... we are going to look twice cause that aint normal. She has disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pink freud Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by CFH1919ETERNAL i had a discussion earler tonight about diseases. i think that obesity, aids, alcoholism, depression etc etc is not a disease. I believe theyre all choices. And diseases are more like retardation, crippleness, etc etc. what do you think? Discuss if you say AIDS isnt a disease, i say your chromozomes are a disease.cmere so i can cure* you.*remove you from the general population by means of death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members facefirst Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by CFH1919ETERNAL i had a discussion earler tonight about diseases. i think that obesity, aids, alcoholism, depression etc etc is not a disease. I believe theyre all choices. And diseases are more like retardation, crippleness, etc etc. what do you think? Discuss Tell me you're joking. A virus IS a disease. Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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