Members Themetallikid Posted October 12, 2006 Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 Ok, now I'm not getting my hopes up or anything, but in case it does pan out, I want to start researching information as this is something I've never dealt with and such. Our bass player, who seemingly seems to know everyone or at least meet the 'right' people, had a guy come into his business today that is looking to start up a music store in his area. Has toured with Kiss and just came off the Madonna tour. Not sure what the guy does, but believeable as this isnt the first time my bass player as mentioned people like this and I have met some of them. Anyway, this guy wants to do the music store thing and sponsor our band. He wants our input for what he should carry in his store as well as talk to me and the bass player about building his own line of bass and guitar amps, which he would name our signature amps. SO my questions are...(if this works out to be all true) what should I start looking into when he asks me questions about what I like and such? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gainfreak Posted October 12, 2006 Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 If I am following this correctly, as far as amp building goes. Your job is to intelligently describe the type of tone that you would like in an amp. His job would then be to decipher what you are saying and make it happen in a prototype amp. After you hear it, then you could tell him what you like of dislike or if it needed more mids/less midst more bass etc. etc. As far as what to carry in the store, that is subject to location. The music retail business is very tricky. You cannot carry a product line if there is another store that already carries that produc and is with a certain radius of the store he is opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Themetallikid Posted October 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 yeah pretty much, I was just curious if there as any information I can research to maybe cut down the number of times going back and forth, or if I could more intelligently describe in "his building parts terms" what i'm looking for the first time and such. As well as pro's/con's about effects loops....active/passive EQ controls...variable Ohm settings... I have limited use with a tube amp, by limited I mean I have only owned the Peavey JSX and love it, so I havent experimented with a lot of different options on amps...and such.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gainfreak Posted October 12, 2006 Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 Originally posted by Themetallikid yeah pretty much, I was just curious if there as any information I can research to maybe cut down the number of times going back and forth, or if I could more intelligently describe in "his building parts terms" what i'm looking for the first time and such. As well as pro's/con's about effects loops....active/passive EQ controls...variable Ohm settings...I have limited use with a tube amp, by limited I mean I have only owned the Peavey JSX and love it, so I havent experimented with a lot of different options on amps...and such.... If the guy really knows his stuff, you shouldn't have any problem. You really should not have to research anything but research is always good if you want to learn more about building. Part of the problem is knowing what type of sound you dig! I found my sound in the mesa boogie mark series. If I had a tech that wanted to build me an amp, I would start with that voicing and tell him some ideas that I had to make it better. That said, it really is in his court. You could even tell him that you wanted a souped up version of the JSX (more mids etc etc or more clarity more gain... endless possibilities) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gainfreak Posted October 12, 2006 Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 Another thing that you can do that will help is to give him a referance. What i mean is pick an artist whose tone that you really love and give him sound clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Themetallikid Posted October 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 sound clips are cool... yeah I dig the JSX sound for the most part, minus some of the highs on the Ultra channel. But want more low mids like the Mesa's have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gainfreak Posted October 12, 2006 Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 Originally posted by Themetallikid sound clips are cool...yeah I dig the JSX sound for the most part, minus some of the highs on the Ultra channel. But want more low mids like the Mesa's have. there you go! You're off to a start. Just Tell that to the amp guy after you let him hear the JSX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Themetallikid Posted October 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 I guess, i was asking more in the line of not so much tone descriptions, but other parts of amps that most people probably dont think about. Stuff like effects loops, difference of active/passive eq's, boost switches for the channels, stuff like that...plus I would need to help come up with a name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tommythelurker Posted October 12, 2006 Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 The guys name isn't Rob is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Themetallikid Posted October 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 I dont know yet, why? lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tommythelurker Posted October 12, 2006 Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 Originally posted by Themetallikid I dont know yet, why? lol.... Remember the Fab Amps guy? His name is Rob. Don't tell me you missed that whole fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Themetallikid Posted October 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 Fab amps sounds familiar, but not sure what your referring to exactly...I tend to not get involved in fiasco's on here so I dont really pay attention to that stuff much. Lately I have more often, but if it was awhile ago I probably did miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tommythelurker Posted October 12, 2006 Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 Couple months ago. I know what you mean and I generally do the same, but this one was actually amp related, at least it started that way. It got pretty ugly. I don't want this to turn into another one of those threads so I'm not going to say any more. PM me if you want more info, or just do a forum search... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Themetallikid Posted October 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 i'll keep the name in m ind and find out what this guy is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Themetallikid Posted October 13, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 13, 2006 FYI his name isnt Rob. and just a bump for the morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JamesPeters Posted October 13, 2006 Members Share Posted October 13, 2006 I don't know why you'd need my help; it seems as though you have things wrapped up well enough. Tell the dude what you want, see if he can provide it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Themetallikid Posted October 13, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 13, 2006 I'm not asking for info regarding 'eq' tone issues, but more from the amp builders side of how effects loops, fat switches, boos buttons, pull knobs and sorts work so I have a better understanding. so that we dont waste time trying things I wouldnt want nor use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tommythelurker Posted October 13, 2006 Members Share Posted October 13, 2006 Sorry I didn't email you yesterday, allergy medicine was screwing me up and work got a kinda hectic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Themetallikid Posted October 13, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 13, 2006 no prob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joesl8 Posted October 13, 2006 Members Share Posted October 13, 2006 So are you helping the guy figure what kind of amps to build or are you helping him figure out what to carry if he opens up a store...or both??I got to say that if you don't really know that much about amps... and he's asking you for info...the guys in for a rocky ride! For general info you should scourer the amp forum. It runs the gammut, but if you know what you like base an amp off that. You're not going to please everyone, so make what you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Themetallikid Posted October 13, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 13, 2006 So are you helping the guy figure what kind of amps to build or are you helping him figure out what to carry if he opens up a store...or both?? He wants to get into building amps. Our bass player talked about him making signature amps for our band to use, he was cool with it. I'm sure he'll fill his store with other brands as well, but will also stock/build amps of our 'sig' line or whatever. I got to say that if you don't really know that much about amps... and he's asking you for info...the guys in for a rocky ride! For general info you should scourer the amp forum. It runs the gammut, but if you know what you like base an amp off that. You're not going to please everyone, so make what you like. I know enough tone wise to know what I like, and I do have a sound in my head that I want. I love my JSX's tone, but would like a little more of the mesa low mids in there. My questions arent about the voicing of the amp as I'm sure he will just want to know the general tone of what i'm going for. I'm simply looking for info, from an amp builders perspective, and purely so that I understand his side a bit better. I just want to know how much of a pain those options I've listed numerous times above are to install/uninstall. If there are options that I know I wouldnt like, then I wont have him go through the trouble of trial and error with putting it in you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JamesPeters Posted October 14, 2006 Members Share Posted October 14, 2006 Rather than my explaining what features like that do, why not just ask for what you want (from the amp designer) in the first place and cut to the chase. Whether it seems like a feature or not isn't as important as whether it's just "there", built in (whether it has a switch or button or not). What's most important is you get what you want out of the design, not whether you have some fancy looking buttons to push. Think simple, but practical. The features you want will become self-evident then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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