Members bikerdude2 Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Can it cover 80's Hard Rock/Metal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grantfordsigpi Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 I have the same question. I am going to test drive one tonight. I will let you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pwn3d Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by bikerdude2 Can it cover 80's Hard Rock/Metal? Im gonna say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jaeger28 Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 I say yes, even at low volume, and this is gain at around 7 recorded with a BKP loaded Axis http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/download.php?id=1319 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Exocaster Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by Pwn3d Im gonna say no. There's this idea floating around the forum that the Shiva is incapable of anything remotely heavy, and that's ass. I've played an unmodded Shiva side-by-side with an unmodded JCM 2000 TSL, and the Shiva's gain at 3:00 with the boost engaged is roughly equivalent to the Marshall's at 2:00, both at band volumes. The Shiva's a lot thicker sounding and a bit darker. It falls pretty squarely into the "modded Marshall" camp, but with a thicker, darker voicing. There's plenty of gain on tap. For those who've heard Jerry Cantrell's Degradation Trip, that's all Shiva, the whole album. That's a pretty thick, heavy tone, and that's pretty much what they sound like in person. I just e-mailed someone from my old band who has a clip I did with some heavy riffing on the Shiva. Once I get it, I'll post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFW Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 I'd say it will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by bikerdude2 Can it cover 80's Hard Rock/Metal? I have some clips on my site that I would consider 80's style rock/metal. I'd say yes, but you need to know whether you like the voicing or not. That's the clincher... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danhops Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by Bob Savage I I'd say yes, but you need to know whether you like the voicing or not. I'd agree with that. The voicing was not my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by danhops I'd agree with that. The voicing was not my taste. This falls true with all amps, however, there are some manufacturers with what I consider to be unique voicings, Bogner and VHT being two of them. It seems that most players either really like them or don't like them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danhops Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by Bob Savage This falls true with all amps, however, there are some manufacturers with what I consider to be unique voicings, Bogner and VHT being two of them. It seems that most players either really like them or don't like them at all. I like my Uber much more than the Shiva. That said, its going to be getting some work done. I think I'll dig it much more when it comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by danhops I like my Uber much more than the Shiva. That said, its going to be getting some work done. I think I'll dig it much more when it comes back. What are you doing to it, and who's doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danhops Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by Bob Savage What are you doing to it, and who's doing it? Camerons gonna redo the clean to be Shiva like ( I loved the Shiva clean), and rework the OD to be less fizzy, and more clear. Spoke with him for about an hour last night, and decided I'm gonna give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by danhops Camerons gonna redo the clean to be Shiva like ( I loved the Shiva clean), and rework the OD to be less fizzy, and more clear. Spoke with him for about an hour last night, and decided I'm gonna give it a try. How is he going to get the clean Shiva-like without changing at least the power section? I'd think both the power and pre sections are different enough that it's not possible, but I'm no techie. When you get it, you need to A/B that sucker with a Shiva's clean and report back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eyeball987 Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Cantrell recorded Degradation Trip with a Shiva. Possibly a boost here and there but I would call that tone heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cibyl Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by SFW I'd say it will...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wwjRIMdWtE Holy hell,...that was {censored}ing horrible. What was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by Cibyl Holy hell,...that was {censored}ing horrible. What was that? That's a poor performance on Rockstar Supernova. Raphael actually gets some killer tones out of the Shiva, but you couldn't hear it in that lousy video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bikerdude2 Posted November 16, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Thanks...I'll check them out tonight when I get home from work. If the voicing is anything like the XTC, I'm sure I'd love it.Originally posted by Bob Savage I have some clips on my site that I would consider 80's style rock/metal. I'd say yes, but you need to know whether you like the voicing or not. That's the clincher... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by Exocaster There's this idea floating around the forum that the Shiva is incapable of anything remotely heavy, and that's ass. Ive been saying this for a long time now. Good show ol' chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pwn3d Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by Exocaster There's this idea floating around the forum that the Shiva is incapable of anything remotely heavy, and that's ass. To me, there are better suited amps. If your going for that sound why not just get a marshall? Im not saying it cant, it might, when I played through one it didnt seem like it. I mean its like saying a bassman only gets clean sounds; yeah suuuuuuuure! IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by Pwn3d If your going for that sound why not just get a marshall? because the Bogner its in own variation of that sound. And it sounds thicker than the 2000 series Marshalls but with just as much gain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pwn3d Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by telephant because the Bogner its in own variation of that sound. And it sounds thicker than the 2000 series Marshalls but with just as much gain... Well, my post was just in realtion to the era. Most I would say were using marshalls. But yeah, I think we all like different flavors. Just think back in the day you had only a few. Now you can get anything you want which makes things harder. (on our wallets too ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uberscha11 Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 shiva can definitely do heavy, you can get a pretty good lamb of god tone boosting the dirty channel, i still like my uber more, but i might be using a shiva to compliment it in the studio in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pink freud Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 i think it weighs generally the same all the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by bikerdude2 Thanks...I'll check them out tonight when I get home from work. If the voicing is anything like the XTC, I'm sure I'd love it. I find the voicing to be quite a bit different than the Ecstasy. There are some similarities, but I find there to be similarities in all of Reinholds designs, but it's definitely a different beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bikerdude2 Posted November 16, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 I could find a XTC combo for $1500...that's my all time fav. tone I've found for what I play. Hell, maybe I'll wait for a steal on an Uber. Look forward to listening to your clips Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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