Members dmk Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 I'm really gassing for a single channel amp right now but i cant really decided between the 1987x or JTM45.I know the 1987 is meant to be pretty much a lower watt SLP, plus an effects loop. And the JTM45 has no effects loop but a valve rectifier. That seems to be the technical difference, but whats the tonal difference?cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scotski Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 1987 = Total rock machineJTM45 has a more Fender-y flavor to it. Warm sounding, can be little farty under hi-gain in my experience. Both great amps, just slightly different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadRonald Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Here's my take on it. I've never played a 1987X so I have no opinion of that amp. I'm sure it sounds great. http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1445109&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members "sasquatch" Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 JTM is the looser, flubbier, more bluesy of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dmk Posted November 22, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Originally posted by BadRonald Here's my take on it. I've never played a 1987X so I have no opinion of that amp. I'm sure it sounds great. http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1445109&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=1 its your fault i need one of these amps now i love the sound of your jtm btw. so a jtm it may be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scotski Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Aha! Bluesy was the word I was trying to think of, but couldn't quite get there. Way classier than 'farty'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members atrox Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Originally posted by dmk its your fault i need one of these amps now i love the sound of your jtm btw. so a jtm it may be! The clip on that thread is actually my 1987 clone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadRonald Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Originally posted by atrox The clip on that thread is actually my 1987 clone Yeah, it's his fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KirkHammett1 Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Anyone have JTM 45 reissue clips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dmk Posted November 22, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Originally posted by atrox The clip on that thread is actually my 1987 clone my bad. it does sound amazing though. i wondering just how much better your clone sounds than a stock 1987x... will the rectifier be whats making it sound 'bluesy'? i can try both out at a nearby shop, but not at the sort of volumes that will show one amp to be 'better' than the other. i say better, i mean more suited to what i'm looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dmk Posted November 22, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Originally posted by BadRonald Yeah, it's his fault! heh. got any clips of your jtm45 yet? does the gz34 really add a lot to the overall sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members "sasquatch" Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Originally posted by KirkHammett1 Anyone have JTM 45 reissue clips? not me playing. this is a kithttp://users.adelphia.net/~darrylcoy/index_files/MUSIC/JTM45Recording1.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members atrox Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Originally posted by dmk my bad. it does sound amazing though. i wondering just how much better your clone sounds than a stock 1987x...will the rectifier be whats making it sound 'bluesy'?i can try both out at a nearby shop, but not at the sort of volumes that will show one amp to be 'better' than the other.i say better, i mean more suited to what i'm looking for. My 1987 clone is an exact Point to Point clone of an early 1987 with a couple volume mods that are out of the circuit when on 10. The reissues do sound different. The JTM would sound bluesier because teh tube rectifier has more sag. Mine, like all 1987's, has a SS Rectifier. It will produce a slightly tighter sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadRonald Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Originally posted by dmk heh. got any clips of your jtm45 yet? does the gz34 really add a lot to the overall sound? I don't have a good recording setup. I need to pick up one of those USB or Firewire recording interface thingy's. They're pretty cheap these days. There is a great sag on the JTM45. Some may like it, some may not. I love it. It has a great bluesy tone to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strato-Rich Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 I've owned JTM45's and love their cleans, and the breakup at about 8 is pretty nice. However, they benefit from clipping the bright cap and changing a few caps on the board to get rid of the flubby bass. We did this with mine and it made it a far nicer amp. 1987X is just like everyone else said, a total and complete rock machine. It also benefits greatly from removing the bright cap. I currently gig a 1987X clone and love it. With my LP, it goes from clean to scream with only a twist of my guitars volume knob. I use a hotplate with it at home and on some gigs, but I usually run the volume at about 5 and it's fully saturated at that point. The guy that built it for me also did a little magic to make it more aggressive than the typical plexi, but I refused the PPIMV mod as I didn't like the way it sounded on any plexi I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strato-Rich Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Originally posted by dmk heh. got any clips of your jtm45 yet?does the gz34 really add a lot to the overall sound? It softens the attack, unlike the 1987X's solid state rectifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadRonald Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Originally posted by Luscious I've owned JTM45's and love their cleans, and the breakup at about 8 is pretty nice. However, they benefit from clipping the bright cap and changing a few caps on the board to get rid of the flubby bass. We did this with mine and it made it a far nicer amp. 1987X is just like everyone else said, a total and complete rock machine. It also benefits greatly from removing the bright cap. I currently gig a 1987X clone and love it. With my LP, it goes from clean to scream with only a twist of my guitars volume knob. I use a hotplate with it at home and on some gigs, but I usually run the volume at about 5 and it's fully saturated at that point. The guy that built it for me also did a little magic to make it more aggressive than the typical plexi, but I refused the PPIMV mod as I didn't like the way it sounded on any plexi I've heard. Which power tubes do you prefer with the JTM45? 5881's or KT66? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strato-Rich Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Originally posted by BadRonald Which power tubes do you prefer with the JTM45? 5881's or KT66? KT66, but the current production KT66 tubes are shit for reliability. I've seen a valve arts shuguang take out an entire tube socket as it melted down. NOS is the way to go, but you had better be willing to spend at least $400 for instant gratification. I ran SED EL34's in mine with pretty good luck, but it had an extended bias range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadRonald Posted November 22, 2006 Members Share Posted November 22, 2006 Originally posted by Luscious KT66, but the current production KT66 tubes are shit for reliability. I've seen a valve arts shuguang take out an entire tube socket as it melted down. NOS is the way to go, but you had better be willing to spend at least $400 for instant gratification. I ran SED EL34's in mine with pretty good luck, but it had an extended bias range. If that's the case, I'll probably stick with the 5881's. It does sound very good as it is. If it ain't broke........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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