Members thelonius74 Posted August 11, 2002 Members Share Posted August 11, 2002 Do you guys have problems with this? I'm working on one particular piece right now, and I had come up with a little riff to break things up...almost a pre-chorus, but it was an unintended part so I've been laboring over what to put over this riff melody-wise. As hard as I try I just can't come up with something to my satisfaction. I'm thinking it may be in my best interest to cut the part for the sake of the overall song, but some of the people who have heard the song so far consider that riff to be the crux of the song almost. What would you guys do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terje Posted August 11, 2002 Members Share Posted August 11, 2002 Well, for me a riff is never "the crux of the song". I've listened too much to Dylan for that to be the case Anyway, if it is any help think like this. You can always use a good riff in antother song. Just like you can with great lyrics ideas. If they don't work for the song, save them for the next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WattsUrizen Posted August 11, 2002 Members Share Posted August 11, 2002 I think it was Brahms that said, 'The composer is master'. Don't be a slave to the idea if it disturbs the song. Sure, the idea might be great on it's own, but if it hurts the song, it becomes a bad idea. If the riff is the 'crux' of the song, then maybe you should write another song around that riff, and get rid of it in the first song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terje Posted August 11, 2002 Members Share Posted August 11, 2002 Hm... didn't I just say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thelonius74 Posted August 11, 2002 Author Members Share Posted August 11, 2002 Oh, I completely agree with you guys...and even you Terje, that a riff is not the crux of any song really. Only an enhancement. I was just talking about the difficulties of letting go of a part that you're attatched to, or changing something that you've worked on for a while, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WattsUrizen Posted August 12, 2002 Members Share Posted August 12, 2002 Yeah, that's the big problem. It's hard to say to yourself 'It's not going to work' when you feel that the idea is a good one. Funny how we get attached to our ideas. I think it's the pride we have when we create something we are happy with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terje Posted August 12, 2002 Members Share Posted August 12, 2002 But the thought that helps me is that if I have a good ideqa, like a nice riff, then it'll most probably work later. Savve it, save all good ideas. I mostly write lyrics when I write. I have this "problem" all the time. I write this great lyric line (or one I think is great anyway) and then I can't make a song out of it. Or I have a song, and I have a great line, or verse, that sort of works with it but disturbs the whole. It has to go but it'll always find it's way into something else later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WattsUrizen Posted August 13, 2002 Members Share Posted August 13, 2002 That's very true. I think good ideas seem to make songs of themselves, without too much effort on your part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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