Members TheAmazingBlob Posted February 17, 2008 Members Share Posted February 17, 2008 I know they used an ENGL Savage and an SE on the album, but could I get close to the tone with this rig? Jackson RR1T w/EMG 85/85 ENGL Savage 120 Vader 4x12 I absolutely love the tone on that album, basically I'm wondering if it would be achievable without dropping $3000 on an SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CenturyStanding Posted February 17, 2008 Members Share Posted February 17, 2008 Your setup actually isn't too different from theirs. *I think* they used the Savage into a Mesa Traditional 4x12 with a Jackson loaded with EMGs for the bulk of the rhythm tones on that album. I'm sure you could get pretty close with the setup you are rocking now. Do you have any clips? It's hard to tell you what to do without hearing where your tone is at currently. How are you settings dialed in? Which of the million tone shaping buttons on the Savage do you have pushed in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAmazingBlob Posted February 17, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 17, 2008 Your setup actually isn't too different from theirs.*I think* they used the Savage into a Mesa Traditional 4x12 with a Jackson loaded with EMGs for the bulk of the rhythm tones on that album.I'm sure you could get pretty close with the setup you are rocking now. Do you have any clips? It's hard to tell you what to do without hearing where your tone is at currently.How are you settings dialed in? Which of the million tone shaping buttons on the Savage do you have pushed in?Oh, sorry, I should have clarified. I don't actually have that rig, I'm just considering getting it and wondering how close I might be able to get to Dimmu Borgir's tone. Right now I have the Jackson with 85s, and I'm planning on buying the Vader within 2 or 3 weeks. Then I'll have to save for a few months to get the Savage. Currently I'm using a Mesa Mark III and Mesa Halfback 2x12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Adeamus Posted February 17, 2008 Members Share Posted February 17, 2008 Oh, sorry, I should have clarified. I don't actually have that rig, I'm just considering getting it and wondering how close I might be able to get to Dimmu Borgir's tone.Right now I have the Jackson with 85s, and I'm planning on buying the Vader within 2 or 3 weeks. Then I'll have to save for a few months to get the Savage. Currently I'm using a Mesa Mark III and Mesa Halfback 2x12. Well I live in MN and have a used Vader I'd be interested in selling to ya. arch.angel.adeamus AT gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAmazingBlob Posted February 17, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 17, 2008 Well I live in MN and have a used Vader I'd be interested in selling to ya. arch.angel.adeamus@gmail.com E-mail't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAmazingBlob Posted February 17, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 17, 2008 Bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted February 17, 2008 Members Share Posted February 17, 2008 Bump. You could pretty much nail the tone yes. I think now they are using blackouts though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAmazingBlob Posted February 18, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 18, 2008 You could pretty much nail the tone yes. I think now they are using blackouts though.Sweet They may be using Blackouts now, but I doubt they were when they recorded the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LionHeaRT07 Posted February 18, 2008 Members Share Posted February 18, 2008 Damn that's a sexy tone they have on that album. ENGL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAmazingBlob Posted February 18, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 18, 2008 Damn that's a sexy tone they have on that album. ENGL Never thought I would hear anything involving Dimmu Borgir described as "sexy", but I have to agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoodleFace Posted February 18, 2008 Members Share Posted February 18, 2008 Awesome, I just bought this album yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Angel Posted February 18, 2008 Members Share Posted February 18, 2008 Never thought I would hear anything involving Dimmu Borgir described as "sexy", but I have to agree Really? Shit, I find the music sexy in an epic way, as in the way Interview with a Vampire portrays vampires. Death metal and orchestras just go together and the arrival of bands like Dimmu were a long time coming. Dimmu is like an evil gothic opera to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LionHeaRT07 Posted February 18, 2008 Members Share Posted February 18, 2008 Never thought I would hear anything involving Dimmu Borgir described as "sexy", but I have to agree sometimes shit happens, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheEmperor Posted February 18, 2008 Members Share Posted February 18, 2008 Not stock you need studio fredman or at least a proffessional engineer. If you put an EQ in the loop and slave a 5150 and tweak alot and use a parametric EQ and cut some {censored} freqencies you might be there. EMG suck in ENGL amps and dont see the point use them in modern amp(only my opinion). Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheGreatGreen Posted February 18, 2008 Members Share Posted February 18, 2008 EMG suck in ENGL ampsGood luck Not true. I've heard more than one rig with the ENGL / EMG combo. It sounds huge! You just have to know how to dial for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CenturyStanding Posted February 18, 2008 Members Share Posted February 18, 2008 Not stock you need studio fredman or at least a proffessional engineer. If you put an EQ in the loop and slave a 5150 and tweak alot and use a parametric EQ and cut some {censored} freqencies you might be there. EMG suck in ENGL amps and dont see the point use them in modern amp(only my opinion).Good luck You absolutely DO NOT need all of that to get a similar tone. Sure, it won't be as polished or dead on but you certainly don't need all of that. I plug my guitar right into my Savage 120 through a Mills Acoustics 4x12 and on rough mode with the right tweaking you could get pretty damn close to their level of br00tality. In terms of the comment about EMG's through Engls, though I have never personality tried my amp with active pickups, there are literally dozens and dozens of professional bands putting EMG 81/85's through their Engl's and getting fantastic results. Blanket statements like that show a real bias on the topic, I'm not sure why you are chiming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KingKabong Posted February 18, 2008 Members Share Posted February 18, 2008 I just got an EMG 81/60 loaded guitar, I think it sounds badass with my Savage. Very clear and powerful. It's world different than my Duncan Invader loaded WR1. That thing sounds way too bass heavy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members noirjp Posted February 18, 2008 Members Share Posted February 18, 2008 I happen to love EMG 81's in the Savage. I think they sound way better than passives in that head. I have a XXL and a standard cab with g100k's in it. Love that sound. I just played with the Vader 4x12 2 weeks ago and it is an incredible sound. Very smooth and heavy sounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAmazingBlob Posted February 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 19, 2008 You absolutely DO NOT need all of that to get a similar tone. Sure, it won't be as polished or dead on but you certainly don't need all of that. I plug my guitar right into my Savage 120 through a Mills Acoustics 4x12 and on rough mode with the right tweaking you could get pretty damn close to their level of br00tality. In terms of the comment about EMG's through Engls, though I have never personality tried my amp with active pickups, there are literally dozens and dozens of professional bands putting EMG 81/85's through their Engl's and getting fantastic results. Blanket statements like that show a real bias on the topic, I'm not sure why you are chiming in. Kind of what I was thinking Anyway, thanks for the comments, guys. I should be getting a Vader 4x12 from Adeamus as soon as my current cab sells. Can't wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mtilli Posted February 21, 2008 Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 Look these clips to get some info http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXLs18JviIE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTCLt9_xymQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KingKabong Posted February 21, 2008 Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 Look these clips to get some info http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXLs18JviIEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTCLt9_xymQ hell yeah, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAmazingBlob Posted February 23, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 23, 2008 Look these clips to get some info http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXLs18JviIEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTCLt9_xymQ Very cool, thanks man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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