Members srvaughnabee Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 What would you be willing to pay for a decent condition, 1968 bassman 50 watt head? Im looking into a trade and trying to decide if it would be worth it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesfralins Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 depends on what shape its in, caps, and what type of tubes and how much life are in them everything running cherry with 'good' tubesid pay 400-650 with deadish tubes350-500 imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members srvaughnabee Posted September 3, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 Thanks man! nice avatar too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesfralins Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 no problem man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HKSblade1 Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 seen em go for $500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ActionJackson66 Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 just traded a peavey classic thirty for a 69 bassman in cherry condition. the guy just had it serviced and everything- i bought my classic thirty for 350, so i guess i got a deal. either way, compared to most old vintage fender amps, these bassmen retain a pretty low value. they do, however, rawk. what are you thinking of trading it for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members srvaughnabee Posted September 3, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 It was offered as a trade plus $150 for my almost new G&L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesfralins Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 It was offered as a trade plus $150 for my almost new G&L try to get 200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 depends on what shape its in, caps, and what type of tubes and how much life are in them everything running cherry with 'good' tubes id pay 400-650 with deadish tubes 350-500 imo So if I offered you my Bassman for $150, you'd pass on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ActionJackson66 Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 It was offered as a trade plus $150 for my almost new G&L i would say it depends on: 1) condition of the amp 2) how much you'll use it 3) how much you currently use the G&L just keep in mind they can be found for relatively cheap, so if the G&L is not something you'd want to get rid of, you can usually find a bassman for 300-500 cash...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesfralins Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 how much was ur G&L? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesfralins Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 So if I offered you my Bassman for $150, you'd pass on it? no i wont take itbecause somebody whose stupid enough to ask such a dumb {censored} question, most likely is running their 4 ohm head through a 16 ohm cab:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 no i wont take it because somebody whose stupid enough to ask such a dumb {censored} question, most likely is running their 4 ohm head through a 16 ohm cab:thu: HA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JBTubehead Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 ...dumb {censored}...most likely is running their 4 ohm head through a 16 ohm cab...Actually, two things happen...(1) you get more power tube saturation without frying the tranny; (2) running a 4 ohm head into a 16 ohm load mathematically halves the power output. This technique used to be the norm back in the 70's. I must be getting too old.Go run your old Bassman 50w head into a single 16 ohm Greenback and get back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 Actually, two things happen...(1) you get more power tube saturation without frying the tranny; (2) running a 4 ohm head into a 16 ohm load mathematically halves the power output. This technique used to be the norm back in the 70's. I must be getting too old. Go run your old Bassman 50w head into a single 16 ohm Greenback and get back to me. No thanks. Every tech I've talked to said it was a bad bad idea. One step up is ok, but two steps is a big no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Inspector 71 Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 I wish I kept mine. I had a 68 head with a matching 2X12 cab for $500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JBTubehead Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 No thanks. Every tech I've talked to said it was a bad bad idea. One step up is ok, but two steps is a big no no.My '68 has been running into 16 ohm loads since I bought it in '77, no problem. Same goes for my '66 that I've had since '81. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ActionJackson66 Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 i'm god awful at this ohm {censored}. i've been running my bassman through a marshall 4x12, with a single 16 ohm load input.... no good? someone please post that awesome ohm explanation link that i have repeatedly neglected........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 My '68 has been running into 16 ohm loads since I bought it in '77, no problem. Same goes for my '66 that I've had since '81. No each his own. I'm not willing to risk it with mine. The worst I'll do is use my Bassman with a 4ohm HotPlate and mismatch to an 8ohm cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members srvaughnabee Posted September 3, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 how much was ur G&L? I paid $999 for it in a holiday sale at a local shop. Im pretty sure they normally sell for around $1200. So with the trade and only $150, I think Id be losing quite a bit off the value if I was to sell it outright. Does $800 seem like a fair price for the legacy or am I dreaming? http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2085672&highlight=g%26amp%3Bl+legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesfralins Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 HA! +1 lolfinally one {censored} on this whole forum who can take a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesfralins Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 Actually, two things happen...(1) you get more power tube saturation without frying the tranny; (2) running a 4 ohm head into a 16 ohm load mathematically halves the power output. This technique used to be the norm back in the 70's. I must be getting too old. Go run your old Bassman 50w head into a single 16 ohm Greenback and get back to me. yea...i enjoy not {censored}ing up my {censored} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesfralins Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 I paid $999 for it in a holiday sale at a local shop. Im pretty sure they normally sell for around $1200. So with the trade and only $150, I think Id be losing quite a bit off the value if I was to sell it outright.Does $800 seem like a fair price for the legacy or am I dreaming?http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2085672&highlight=g%26amp%3Bl+legacy i wouldnt trade the G&L unless you could get a bit more unless it was just serviced with fresh tubes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kelly Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 No thanks. Every tech I've talked to said it was a bad bad idea. One step up is ok, but two steps is a big no no. Bassmans have killer transformers. Running at 16 ohms shouldn't be a problem; just don't run it at 2 ohms. Running it at 16 doesn't half the power output on a tube amplifier, but it will probably sound a little tighter. My '68 will be hitting Ebay soon. I hate to sell it, but gas prices are killing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JBTubehead Posted September 3, 2008 Members Share Posted September 3, 2008 ...Running it at 16 doesn't half the power output on a tube amplifier...Sure it does. It takes 14.1 Vrms into a 4 ohm load to equal 49.7 watts (~50 watts). It takes 28.25 Vrms into a 16 ohm load to equal 49.87 watts (~50 watts). Using a 4 ohm tap into a 16 ohm load [which is what we're talking about here], the equations become 14.1Vrms / 16 ohms = 0.88125 amps, and then 0.88125 amps x 28.25 Vrms = 24.89 watts (~25 watts). Also, since the 16 ohm load is drawing half the current, the trannies stay cooler. Edit: To clarify, if your tube amp is running at 1/4 of the speaker load, you will get half power output. 50w/2ohm amp (reissue Bassman) into an 8 ohm cab = 25w output; 50w/4ohm amp (60's Bassman) into a 16 ohm cab = 25w output; etc., etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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