Members C.B.O. Posted September 28, 2008 Members Share Posted September 28, 2008 Just today I went to a local music store. They have a Crate 33 all tube head there for $200. Now to me it wasn't terrible but lacked some things. I was using a Schecter Hell Raiser with the Emg's in it and it just wouldn't hold out the pinch harmonics. Now I'm trying to decide on whether to get this or just save a few more houndred dollars and get a Bugera 6262. My taste is more metal and I like a metal feel to a amp. So give me some of your opinions of what I should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sardocasm Posted September 28, 2008 Members Share Posted September 28, 2008 The Bugera would much more suitable for your needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Puddlegum Posted September 28, 2008 Members Share Posted September 28, 2008 If you want more metal then go with the Bugera. Just don't be surprised if the amp suddenly dies. I've read alot of quality control issues with them. They sound good for the price, but the reliability issue is a big thing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Erock503 Posted September 28, 2008 Members Share Posted September 28, 2008 I would go with the 6260 if you were going Bugera. I have a few friends that own one, and they've stayed reliable and sound damn good for the price. I've heard of QC issues with all the other models, I'm assuming more complex so more to go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted September 28, 2008 Members Share Posted September 28, 2008 buy used.. there are much better options out there than these 2 amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheEsupremacy Posted September 28, 2008 Members Share Posted September 28, 2008 The Bugera 6260 is a decent amp. The reliability issues are totally blown out of proportion IMO. I had a 6262 over the summer and I thought it sounded great. The Bugera is more versitile than the 33 also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted September 28, 2008 Members Share Posted September 28, 2008 The Bugera 6260 is a decent amp. The reliability issues are totally blown out of proportion IMO I used to work for an amp company and sometimes we would get inquiries from customers saying they were concerned about reliability because there were "too many bad reviews on HC" .. I'd check the reviews page and there would be something like... 8 bad reviews there. I used to think to myself, " we probably sold more than 8 units in the last 1/2 hour." It's ridiculous. The truth is that most people who buy gear do not post reviews online, good or bad, they just buy it the gear and use it without ever bothering to write about it. Also, people with a bad experience are more likely to try to voice their opinions then satisfied users, so take these "reliability stories" with a grain of salt. Bottom line is, if you do not have access to the company's reports, you won't know for sure. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlc1587 Posted September 28, 2008 Members Share Posted September 28, 2008 I've had a bugera 333xl since the day it came out and its awesome. I liked it better than the 6262 so I bought it. Tighter gain el34's just better. The 6262 isn't very managable it sounds very loose to me. It does sound similar to my 6505 and 5150 but not exactly. But another reason I didn't get it is because I already had 5150's. I originally just was bored and had some money to spend and said what the hell I'll buy one of these to mess around on. Ends up the 333xl is now my main amp. My peavey 6505 is my backup. So go figure. I didn't expect that at all when I got it either. Just make sure you try the 6262 vs the 333xl... Don't go purchase the 6262 because thats the one you hear about being like the 5150. I can almost bet you'll walk out of there with the 333xl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C.B.O. Posted September 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 I've had a bugera 333xl since the day it came out and its awesome. I liked it better than the 6262 so I bought it. Tighter gain el34's just better. The 6262 isn't very managable it sounds very loose to me. It does sound similar to my 6505 and 5150 but not exactly. But another reason I didn't get it is because I already had 5150's. I originally just was bored and had some money to spend and said what the hell I'll buy one of these to mess around on. Ends up the 333xl is now my main amp. My peavey 6505 is my backup. So go figure. I didn't expect that at all when I got it either. Just make sure you try the 6262 vs the 333xl... Don't go purchase the 6262 because thats the one you hear about being like the 5150. I can almost bet you'll walk out of there with the 333xl. Well I don't have a local music store that carries Bugera so...But if you want to make a recording or know of one that would really help on my decision. People say the 6260 is better than the 6262 but then I hear that the 333xl is better than both of them so I'm not sure what I will go with yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grayeyes777 Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 bugera man. way better sounding amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C.B.O. Posted September 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 bugera man. way better sounding amp. Which one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheEsupremacy Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 The 6260 or the 333XL with a 6L6 retube. Those are the two best Bugera amps. Personally, I'd go 6260. It's a pretty amazing amp for the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members K-Bizzle Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 6260 > 333 at just metal 333 > 6260 at everything but metal (not that the 333 can't do metal, trust me a good set of tubes and a boost and it does a great job at it, its just easier to get there with the 6260) Bugera > Crate at anything non vintage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlc1587 Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 The 333xl sounds better for metal I think. It actually has more gain than the 6262... a lot of people don't realize that. Much tighter gain too. For some reason I see people on here that don't think the 333xl is a metal amp and it is. It also has a damn good clean channel though which the 6262 doesn't do well. I wouldn't retube it like the one guy suggest but thats all opinion. The el34's in my opinion sound much better than 6l6's. the 333xl is smooth and tight gain like I said... The 6262 is not as managable it's very noisy. I'd find a way to play both. I think if you buy from musicians friend you can actually send it back if you don't like it. Order the 333xl if you aint satisfied send it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlc1587 Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 6260 > 333 at just metal333 > 6260 at everything but metal(not that the 333 can't do metal, trust me a good set of tubes and a boost and it does a great job at it, its just easier to get there with the 6260)Bugera > Crate at anything non vintage. What would you need a boost for? I'm not sure about the 333 but I know the 333xl has much more gain than the 6262 had with no boost. The 333xl has a boost built in also. and the xl buttons. I found it easier to get the saturated gain tone I like with the 333xl and trust me I messed with both of them for about 2 hours before purchasing. the gain on about 10 o clock was saturated... it took about 3 o clock on the 6262. I'm nothing but a metal player and I chose it over my 6505 as my main amp if that says anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C.B.O. Posted September 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 6260 > 333 at just metal333 > 6260 at everything but metal(not that the 333 can't do metal, trust me a good set of tubes and a boost and it does a great job at it, its just easier to get there with the 6260)Bugera > Crate at anything non vintage. 6262 or 6260? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlc1587 Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 I'll add too the 333xl is modeled after the jsx so if you can find a peavey dealer and play the jsx you'll get an idea of what it sounds like. They are not exactly the same but pretty close. Same with playing a 5150 and the 6260. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlc1587 Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 6262 or 6260? the 6260 is like the 5150 and the 6262 is like the 5150 2 or 6505+. The 6262 has a seperate eq for the clean channel. The 6260 has slightly more gain but it's barely noticable I think. Go on youtube and type in JSX and watch some of that and then type in 333xl and listen to some of that and check out that lead tone and then watch the 6262. You'll see what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JesterRace51 Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 used 5150. Get the real thing. Can be had for the price of a new bugera 6262 if you look hard enough. Plus, they are a hell of a lot more reliable. Mine are tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C.B.O. Posted September 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 I'll add too the 333xl is modeled after the jsx so if you can find a peavey dealer and play the jsx you'll get an idea of what it sounds like. They are not exactly the same but pretty close. Same with playing a 5150 and the 6260. Ok I have played both the 5150 and JSX. But what I need to know is, is the 6260 better than the 6262? And I cant find a used 5150 for a cheap price. And idk if I really want to trust e-bay or craigslist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlc1587 Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 No it's not better its just whichever one you want. A lot of people like the 6260 but if you want a seperate EQ for your clean channel and a slightly better clean channel then you want the 6262. Theres not a hell of a lot of difference. I mean yeah I can tell the difference in my 5150 and 6505+ but it's not a huge difference and I'd pick my 6505+ over the 5150. So I'd probably pick the 6262. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C.B.O. Posted September 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 Thank you that's what I needed to know. And if someone has a used 5150 for cheap or knows of a place better speak up haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members decode6 Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 Don't do pinch harmonics and you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlc1587 Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 Why would you not do pinch harmonics on any of these high gain amps? This is the wrong place to go man everyones gonna have something to say lol Best bet is to play it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C.B.O. Posted September 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 That's the thing I don't have any where to play one that's why I need opinions. If I had played them do you think I would be here. Ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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