Members BrianKeesy Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 Song #2 from my collection. Simple title "Another Sad Song". I started this as an up-beat song with sad lyrics to try to contrast the two but it just wasn't working out and then stumbled on this chord progression that I felt worked out ok. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=817595&content=musicYou can stream it from that link. Thanks for the input. -Brian ---------------------You used to be my love but now your just another sad song Am F C G Am F C GYou thought I wan't there so now Im gonna a move on Am F C G Am F C GYou said it wouldn't work so you just gave up Am F C G Am F C GI said I was in love but you thought i wanted to {censored} Am7 D F CSo how should I feel after you broke my heart Am7 D F CAnd how should it feel since you tore it apartAm7 D F CIs this what I get for playing my part You used to be my love but now your just another sad song You built up your wall and i tried to break it down Everyday youd add a brick and i couldn't get in Everyday id knock it down and youd start again Am7 D F CSo how should I feel after you broke my heart Am7 D F CAnd how should it feel since you tore it apartAm7 D F CIs this what I get for playing my part You used to be my love but now your just another sad song I only wanted to feel like I belonged You never looked at me even though I stared at you The look on your face everyday made me blue So you used to be my love but now your just another sad song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 I wonder if maybe you have two songs here... One uses a central metaphor of a love affair turning into 'another sad song'... The other (potential) song uses the brick wall being torn down and built up as its central metaphor. (By the way, I think there could really be something in there with that image of it being built up and knocked down... Of course, it's tricky, if you get too caught up in it it will become clunky and obvious. Songwriting is like dancing... on the rim of a volcano. ) Now, if you wanted to get tricky... you might be able to get a song-within-a-song thing (or maybe you do already but haven't quite drawn the lines connecting all the dots). But I wonder if the best way to deal with this song might be to let the two bits go their own ways, drawing two focused, coherent songs out of this. PS... though your guitar playing's a wee bit shaky, I enjoyed the dark tone of your voice, it sounds mysterious and conveys emotion -- but part of that mysteriousness may be that I had some difficulty making out the words as you sang them. (Thanks for the lyric sheet! It always helps when words are an issue.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members myredshoes Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 Don't have speakers here but have a Martin. It appears to be manufactured out of kitchen countertop scraps. You've written out a very nice chord progression and it does fit the lyric well, but: I like your original idea better - contrasting up music and down words. I think one reason for this is that up music allows you to get almost any lyric content across. Particularly if your voice is not bell-like (my own lyrics can be very difficult to make out, my voice deep, dry and percussive) and the lyrics are not out there in front, your initial plan can result in a very nice subversive arraingement. If that sort of thing interests you, I think you should continue pursuing it. I don't particularly care for some of the lyrics. "You never looked at me even though I stared at you" does not seem to belong in this song. It's a superfriendlyneighborguy type lyric which conveys creepiness to me. I'm not sure what it's doing in this song, the woman never looking at your protagonist, despite the whole staring thing, after they have broken up, his heart is broken, etc... I don't understand that part. Not that all things aren't possible in love because {censored} knows they are, but I personally find this verse in this postion in the song a bit confusing. The line would make more sense to me at the beginning of the song, when that response behavior might have warned the guy off, had he not chosen to ignore it. I hope you won't take that as some kind of a criticism of anything other than the position of a line in a song. You're obviously a songwriter. And I hope you would do the same for me when you see me writing something that seems wierd to you, okay? Because usually I am so close to my songs that I can't even see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Microwave Walrus Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 damn sounds really good, maybe i'm listening too carefully tho...i just woke up... no offense, but your vocals are bad and you need a backup band or something but i can definitely hear a groove there the chords in the chorus could be improved, tho, I'm guessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrianKeesy Posted March 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 I wonder if maybe you have two songs here... One uses a central metaphor of a love affair turning into 'another sad song'... The other (potential) song uses the brick wall being torn down and built up as its central metaphor. (By the way, I think there could really be something in there with that image of it being built up and knocked down... Of course, it's tricky, if you get too caught up in it it will become clunky and obvious. Songwriting is like dancing... on the rim of a volcano. ) Now, if you wanted to get tricky... you might be able to get a song-within-a-song thing (or maybe you do already but haven't quite drawn the lines connecting all the dots). But I wonder if the best way to deal with this song might be to let the two bits go their own ways, drawing two focused, coherent songs out of this. PS... though your guitar playing's a wee bit shaky, I enjoyed the dark tone of your voice, it sounds mysterious and conveys emotion -- but part of that mysteriousness may be that I had some difficulty making out the words as you sang them. (Thanks for the lyric sheet! It always helps when words are an issue.) I was gonna try to make it a "song in a song" but I haven't figured out how to make the change yet. There was a whole crap ton of other lyrics that had gotten scrapped as well so that is something I'm still working on. I'm sort of into the whole "rock opera" thing so I like putting too much stuff together and making it work. I've been working on the guitar playing but I'm mainly a bass player so that is what I do most of my work on. And I just recently started singing. I have a hard time enunciating the words while trying to adjust the melody my voice is doing yet. Any good exercises that would help that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrianKeesy Posted March 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 I like your original idea better - contrasting up music and down words.I think one reason for this is that up music allows you to get almost any lyric content across. Particularly if your voice is not bell-like (my own lyrics can be very difficult to make out, my voice deep, dry and percussive) and the lyrics are not out there in front, your initial plan can result in a very nice subversive arraingement.If that sort of thing interests you, I think you should continue pursuing it. I really wanted to do that so I'm working on an arrangement with my band that will allow me to do it with those chords and that progression. I have a peppy sort of bass line that I wrote the lyrics off of but then I put those chords to it and now my bass line doesn't fit anymore. So hopefully it will work out in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrianKeesy Posted March 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 I don't particularly care for some of the lyrics. "You never looked at me even though I stared at you" does not seem to belong in this song. It's a superfriendlyneighborguy type lyric which conveys creepiness to me. I'm not sure what it's doing in this song, the woman never looking at your protagonist, despite the whole staring thing, after they have broken up, his heart is broken, etc... I don't understand that part. Not that all things aren't possible in love because {censored} knows they are, but I personally find this verse in this postion in the song a bit confusing. The line would make more sense to me at the beginning of the song, when that response behavior might have warned the guy off, had he not chosen to ignore it. I hope you won't take that as some kind of a criticism of anything other than the position of a line in a song. You're obviously a songwriter. And I hope you would do the same for me when you see me writing something that seems wierd to you, okay? Because usually I am so close to my songs that I can't even see them. I try not to take things too personally. Sometime I do and I don't mean to but the way you explained what you were feeling about the lyric made me feel the same thing so that was good. Thank you for not just saying "this line sucks". What I was trying to convey was that towards the end of the relationship it was to the point where she didn't even want to look at the Protagonist. And even though he would go above and beyond what he wanted from her, he just couldn't even get the simple things. I'll try to work on that one tonight. Or whenever I feel like it. I don't usually give myself a timeline. That makes my lyrics terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members myredshoes Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 I try not to take things too personally. Sometime I do and I don't mean to but the way you explained what you were feeling about the lyric made me feel the same thing so that was good. Thank you for not just saying "this line sucks". What I was trying to convey was that towards the end of the relationship it was to the point where she didn't even want to look at the Protagonist. And even though he would go above and beyond what he wanted from her, he just couldn't even get the simple things. I'll try to work on that one tonight. Or whenever I feel like it. I don't usually give myself a timeline. That makes my lyrics terrible. Well, the line doesn't suck. It's a killer line. It was the placement in this song that bothered me. "...the point where she didn't even want to look..." There's your line. Needs two more syllables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrianKeesy Posted March 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 Well, the line doesn't suck. It's a killer line. It was the placement in this song that bothered me. "...the point where she didn't even want to look..." There's your line. Needs two more syllables. anymore the point where she didn't even want to look anymore hrmm. I'm gonna try that out tonight and see how it feels. I knew I came here for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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