Members rockinrobby Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 My first song ever recorded on a DAW? Several years ago... I knew not of production? I knew not of techniques? I was a babe in the woods in many ways... I'm about to redo this "masterpiece..." And I'm interested in any feedback that may help? It was already awesome? And will be awesome regardless? But I want to give people a chance to be part of the process? Since the tune is so awesome??? :-) The new version will be even better!! It's currently at the top, www.reverbnation.com/rockinrobby I don't believe in love... "I don't..." This is the original version, I'm working on redoing it "properly..." Edited, adding Lyrics. Blue won't comment on them without it. "THIS is why I would make a lousy couples counselor..." I don't believe in love - Robby Robbins He said love It'll make ya do anything for somebody as he slowly slipped off the ring I need love But I don't want to hurt anymore too many people Too quick to walk out the door Ohhh I don't believe in love no more It's never there when I need... Love finds you fallin for the floor It cuts and laughs as you bleed... It's all that I'll never need, yeah. Love Is someone to have and to hold I believe that love is there for two to grow old Oh but I, I can't stay with you anymore she said I'm leavin... And she turned and walked out the door Ohhhh I don't believe in love no more It's never there when I need... Love finds you fallin for the floor It cuts and laughs as you bleed... It's all that I'll never need, yeah. (break) I don't believe in love no more It's never there when I need... Love finds you fallin for the floor It cuts and laughs as you bleed... It's all that I'll never need, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stickboymusic Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 Hey Its got a great persistant melody that really gets in to you - good work I know this place isnt about "production" as such but i think the song works.... id like to hear you use production on this in a more subtle way Something akin to this See what you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oswlek Posted March 7, 2011 Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 I like it a lot. The melody is very catchy (found myself humming it without realizing a few minutes later. The solo works as do the keys. I agree with Stick that the production was too apparent at times, for me it was the thickness of the vocals that stood out the most. Much better than anything I could have put together the first time I used a DAW, though! The only problem I have is that this song jumps into my head every time I glance at your title. [video=youtube;32GsPfUnsRk] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockinrobby Posted March 8, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2011 HeyIts got a great persistant melody that really gets in to you - good workI know this place isnt about "production" as such but i think the song works.... id like to hear you use production on this in a more subtle waySomething akin to thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omfzjdc3rGMSee what you think? Yeah man, I over produce "everything..." :-) It's part of my style, can't help it. I don't believe in love no more... Written after the ex left and took my 6 month old son :-( Hence the emotion... I believe in Karma? And I wouldn't stand next to her in an electrical storm if you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian @ IK Posted March 8, 2011 Members Share Posted March 8, 2011 That's OK. Queensryche plundered the Sisters of Mercy 'Dominion' pretty heavily for their song... [video=youtube;qWvOHT0zfXY] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockinrobby Posted March 8, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yeah, but you can't copyright a title? And I had never even heard the QR song, is my version in any way a rip off of theirs? Anybody can write a song called "I don't believe in love" or "Jonny B Goode?" The question is, what about the underlying structure, meaning? Was anything lifted from someone else? Or only the title? Which again I was unaware of, (A) and (B) you can't copyright a title? Or an idea for a song? You can only copyright either, (A) Lyrics? or (B) melody? Unless my understanding of the copyright law is unclear? What about all of the people who have done songs in 1/4/5? Should they all be sued by the early black performers who created this style of music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockinrobby Posted March 8, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2011 OK I just listened to QR, I don't believe in love? And, I need to apologize to everyone? It's very clear when you hear their version? And then mine? That I lifted the entire song from QR... :-( I'm so sorry, it was totally unintentional? Again, listen to the QR version, and then listen to the version I posted on my RN page? Wow! When you listen to theirs and then mine? (back to back) It's like I put a microphone by the speaker when playing their song? And then simply posted it as my own? It's like an identical twin!!?? Amazing... I'm busted I guess :-( I still don't know how it happened? It's AMAZING!! It's really the exact same song! Same key? Same chord progression? Same melody? Same structure all the way around, same words, same title, it's THE EXACT SAME SONG!! OH GOD FORGIVE ME PLEASE!!! PLEASE FORGIVE ME!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian @ IK Posted March 8, 2011 Members Share Posted March 8, 2011 I don't think there's anything wrong with your title. My point was that Queensryche pretty blatantly lifted a central guitar riff for their song, which is a far greater sin than sharing a common phrase as a title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockinrobby Posted March 8, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2011 :-) Yeah, you can't take (or shouldn't take) "riffs..." You definitely cannot take lyrics!! And you can't take a melody, which is a little harder? But the whole "He's so fine/My sweet Lord" showed that you can actually win one of those? yeah, I agree actually, I don't believe in love is actually a pretty simple title to redo? I really had never heard the QR version? Now had I done a song called "Tuesday's gone with the wind?" or "Jamaican Jerk Off?" Well those would be a little harder to accidentally use the same title :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian @ IK Posted March 8, 2011 Members Share Posted March 8, 2011 Whoever owns "ooooh baby!" must be a multi-zillionaire! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockinrobby Posted March 8, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yeah and; Yeah yeah, no no, yeah yeah... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oswlek Posted March 8, 2011 Members Share Posted March 8, 2011 I thought the smiley made it pretty clear my Queensryche comment was made in jest. {shrugs} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockinrobby Posted March 9, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2011 Sorry, I'm not sure if everyone is familiar with the copy right rules and regs, I guess more are here because it's actually a song writing forum, I should have accounted for that. Yeah there's probably a bunch by this name, I would imagine so anyway. I just did a search, I got Dido, QR, and "The school", stabilo, Ashe, ZOX, (me of course), wow! I had no idea how many different people have done songs by the same name! QR is the most popular by far. A lot of people I speak to don't understand that you can't copyright a title, or a chord progression, only a melody and lyrics. I'm sorry I forgot I was dealing with song writers :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockinrobby Posted March 9, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2011 I'm assuming that "I don't believe in love" is your new one? I gave it a listen and really enjoyed it, you have a classic voice. Although I really enjoyed the full and complete sound that song had I think my favorite was "Take My Love". If it's still in the demo stage My CC would be to bring in bass and drums earlier, like after the first two measures. I think it could really reinforce the first theme. Also, when you exclaim, "you gotta take my love", I think a following harmony of "take my love, go on and take it" would work nicely. On a side note, it may just be my ear but the symphonic strings make the instrumental aspect of the song sound a little repetitive to me. Yeah some of my stuff gets a little repetitive. It's like when they asked KC from the Sunshine band, "KC, why is much of your music so repetitive?" And he replied "cause that's the way uh huh uh huh I like it uh huh uh huh" :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rsadasiv Posted March 10, 2011 Members Share Posted March 10, 2011 You've come a long way, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockinrobby Posted March 10, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 10, 2011 Thanks man... I'm still on the road, as are we all? I think this one was a pretty good place to start from. I'm looking forward to my "first" Instrumental... Started it tonight... When I'm done with it? I think you'll all agree? I put "mental" in Instrumental? You'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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