Members doomsdaymachine Posted November 5, 2011 Members Share Posted November 5, 2011 First off, I've been such a fool for so long, thinking I'd like anything other than a Marshall! I've owned (2) DSL50's, (1) DSL100, a JCM800 2205, and a TSL60, and they all served me well! The TSL60 was probably my least favorite. But, all in all, I've spent WAY too much money, time, & energy with all the other amps, and never found that "it" factor, that the Marshalls have, (for me). Starting with the clean channel, I find the clean/green, suprisingly good. Marshalls have never been known for clean channels, but this one's the best I've heard, for a Marshall, and sounds quite nice, with chorus & reverb in the loop, ( I prefer my Hardwire RV-7 to the onboard digital reverb, but knew that going in). modes "orange", and "red", don't have near the gain I was expecting, and really haven't inspired me, (yet). On to the overdrives - Green is, (to me), clean, with slight break-up, and not nearly as gainy as I would have liked, and just "o.k.", (for now). Onto the orange, THIS is where it's at!! It's fat, thick, and Marshall, all day long! I absolutely LOVE this channel! I boost it, (of course), with my Wylde OD, with gain about 10:00, and it's VERY pleasing. To me, it {censored}s on the 6505. It's just TONE, TONE, TONE!! LOVE IT! Red, has nearly as much gain as the 6505, (to my ears). WAY too much, and slightly more compressed. Lead tones are SICK with harmonics, and again, {censored}S on the 6505 for lead tones as well. Tubes were JJ V1, Chinese V2 & V3, JJ V4 & PI. I've since tried a Tungsol in V1, and it sounded good, but grainy. After experimenting, I'm now with a JJ ECC803S in V1, JJ ECC83S in V2, V3, & V4, and a JJ ECC81 balanced, (12AT7), in the PI slot. It REALLY cleaned up the amp, and cut down on the compression a bit. It sounds HUGE. I ordered some EH 6CA7's for experimenting, and plan to check the bias on the EL34's that came stock, (supposedly SED's). They're probably cold, and may not even be matched - but we'll see.. I LOVE THIS AMP. It's like a pissed off DSL, with more gain, and it's tighter/cleaner. Matched with my 2x12 with new Swamp Thangs, the mids are smooth, and the bottom end is ferocious. I'M GONNA GO PLAY SOME MORE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StevePage Posted November 5, 2011 Members Share Posted November 5, 2011 See, I did say JJ preamp valves worked well in that thing I'm looking to get a JVM again next year, I may go for a 205C or a 410C if I can get one for a good price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members maiden_fan Posted November 5, 2011 Members Share Posted November 5, 2011 Congrats I absolutely love mine. Channel 2 orange is the business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members doomsdaymachine Posted November 6, 2011 Author Members Share Posted November 6, 2011 Congrats I absolutely love mine. Channel 2 orange is the business! Yep. Dialed back a bit, it's classic rock to thrash, and kick in red, for over-the-top leads! The harmonics on the red channel are SICK. I didn't care for the red channel on the DSL, and always ran OD green with a boost and really dug it. But, both orange & red {censored} all over the DSL! More focused, and WAY more attitude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted November 6, 2011 Members Share Posted November 6, 2011 So the JVM really {censored}s all over your DSL's? It's that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members this is paul Posted November 6, 2011 Members Share Posted November 6, 2011 Congrats man. I love my 210. Channel one "green" at 3pm and boosted is where it's at for me. So thick and juicy with just enough crunch for what I play. Channel two gets over the top way quick. I never use anything past 10am on the gain knob. However, I could see why people would love this channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted November 6, 2011 Members Share Posted November 6, 2011 Congrats man. I love my 210. Channel one "green" at 3pm and boosted is where it's at for me. So thick and juicy with just enough crunch for what I play. Channel two gets over the top way quick. I never use anything past 10am on the gain knob. However, I could see why people would love this channel. Have you had any reliability issues with your 210H thus far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted November 6, 2011 Members Share Posted November 6, 2011 This is all good to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmyfirst Posted November 6, 2011 Members Share Posted November 6, 2011 i love the 205's i think they're the pick of the JVM range, i'm thinking about picking one up with a 1936v and running it alongside my VC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members this is paul Posted November 6, 2011 Members Share Posted November 6, 2011 Have you had any reliability issues with your 210H thus far? Funny you ask. I've had it almost 3 years with no issues. Now I have two things happening: 1. Lowered Output. I have to turn it up louder. My thought is either it needs new tubes or has a loose solder (per the other JVM issues thread) 2. Twice now it's turned every light on every option all at once. I'm talking both channel lights, both master volumes, fx, etc... Volume cuts too. Pushing any button thoug fixes it. Need to bring it in and get this checked. Other than that, no issues in 3 years and I didn't buy it new. Definitely would recommend and I'm sure the tubes are just getting tired by now after being used a few times a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted November 7, 2011 Members Share Posted November 7, 2011 Funny you ask. I've had it almost 3 years with no issues. Now I have two things happening:1. Lowered Output. I have to turn it up louder. My thought is either it needs new tubes or has a loose solder (per the other JVM issues thread)2. Twice now it's turned every light on every option all at once. I'm talking both channel lights, both master volumes, fx, etc... Volume cuts too. Pushing any button thoug fixes it. Need to bring it in and get this checked. Other than that, no issues in 3 years and I didn't buy it new. Definitely would recommend and I'm sure the tubes are just getting tired by now after being used a few times a week. Damn man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members this is paul Posted November 7, 2011 Members Share Posted November 7, 2011 Damn man. I'd say a few years on stock tubes though it is to be expected. I love the amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted November 7, 2011 Members Share Posted November 7, 2011 I'd say a few years on stock tubes though it is to be expected. I love the amp. On the JVM forum, I've read that there have been quite a few issues with the JVM series. V3 issues and loose solder connection issues. Got me kinda wary tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members this is paul Posted November 7, 2011 Members Share Posted November 7, 2011 On the JVM forum, I've read that there have been quite a few issues with the JVM series. V3 issues and loose solder connection issues. Got me kinda wary tbh. Hmmmm. Now I'm glad I don't read those forums. Haha. Need to get it checked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shane159 Posted November 7, 2011 Members Share Posted November 7, 2011 On the JVM forum, I've read that there have been quite a few issues with the JVM series. V3 issues and loose solder connection issues. Got me kinda wary tbh. When I was on the 700,000 tons of metal cruise, Gary Holt went through two of them in a matter of minutes and the stage tech was saying how much trouble they had had with them. That is what has kept me from buying one. That being said they were in the elements all day, but still, I personally witnessed 2 blow within 20 minutes. Hope the OP has better luck. I like the way they sound. The one I played was pretty noisy, does anyone else notice theirs being very hissy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted November 7, 2011 Members Share Posted November 7, 2011 When I was on the 700,000 tons of metal cruise, Gary Holt went through two of them in a matter of minutes and the stage tech was saying how much trouble they had had with them. That is what has kept me from buying one. That being said they were in the elements all day, but still, I personally witnessed 2 blow within 20 minutes. Hope the OP has better luck. I like the way they sound. The one I played was pretty noisy, does anyone else notice theirs being very hissy? I like the way the 210H sounds but from what I've read on the JVM forum, I'm thinking twice about getting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tommy Horrible Posted November 7, 2011 Members Share Posted November 7, 2011 I like the way the 210H sounds but from what I've read on the JVM forum, I'm thinking twice about getting one. All amps but peaveys have some problems. Ive had my jvm for 4 years now and other than blown tubes its been a champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AXEL276 Posted November 7, 2011 Members Share Posted November 7, 2011 I like the way the 210H sounds but from what I've read on the JVM forum, I'm thinking twice about getting one. Your missing out big time if you're going to worry about what a hand full of guys at the JVM forum have said about some problems they've had. I've been on that forum and really there are NOT that many complaints and the few that there are common things that might go wrong with any production amp. My advice to anyone thinking about buying a JVM would be to go with the 4 channel if you can. I've owned both, I love my 410C. I enjoyed the 205C that I used for about 6 months, but the extra tones you get with the 4 chann is the ultimate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted November 7, 2011 Members Share Posted November 7, 2011 Your missing out big time if you're going to worry about what a hand full of guys at the JVM forum have said about some problems they've had. I've been on that forum and really there are NOT that many complaints and the few that there are common things that might go wrong with any production amp. My advice to anyone thinking about buying a JVM would be to go with the 4 channel if you can. I've owned both, I love my 410C. I enjoyed the 205C that I used for about 6 months, but the extra tones you get with the 4 chann is the ultimate! Maybe you're right. If I do get one, it's gonna be the 210H. It has all the channels I need and will use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members this is paul Posted November 7, 2011 Members Share Posted November 7, 2011 Maybe you're right. If I do get one, it's gonna be the 210H. It has all the channels I need and will use. If I could do it again I'd get the 4 channel. The 2 channel is enough for me, and I have a great tone I love, but it's missing an extra crunch channel that is awesome. Price on the used market is only about $100-$200 difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted November 7, 2011 Members Share Posted November 7, 2011 If I could do it again I'd get the 4 channel. The 2 channel is enough for me, and I have a great tone I love, but it's missing an extra crunch channel that is awesome. Price on the used market is only about $100-$200 difference. It's gonna be a gift from the wife for X'mas and she specifically said new only. I also need it to operate on 230v. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RiffDaemon Posted November 7, 2011 Members Share Posted November 7, 2011 Your missing out big time if you're going to worry about what a hand full of guys at the JVM forum have said about some problems they've had. I've been on that forum and really there are NOT that many complaints and the few that there are common things that might go wrong with any production amp. Yep. People who encounter problems will be a lot more vocal on message boards. Also, a LOT of those problems are due to user error: "Oh, my board's nuked because my OT fried because I forgot to plug my speaker cable in ... Oh, I've got a ground loop in my pedal configuration that's causing the amp to scream like a banshee ... etc. etc. etc." Personally, the only problems I've had are from power tubes taking a {censored}. My current quad seems to be a good set; they've been going strong for about 2 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members this is paul Posted November 7, 2011 Members Share Posted November 7, 2011 It's gonna be a gift from the wife for X'mas and she specifically said new only. I also need it to operate on 230v. Fair enough. I just know I paid roughly 50% of a new one and it still had the hang tags on it. But I never buy amps new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AXEL276 Posted November 8, 2011 Members Share Posted November 8, 2011 Fair enough. I just know I paid roughly 50% of a new one and it still had the hang tags on it. But I never buy amps new Right about that. The 205C and the 410C which I bought used both had the original plastic settings chart still on them and the floor pedals were also in the plastic bag in the box never used. Both amps were "steals" and in dead mint condition. The 205C which I paid $600 had a problem with the power transformer but it only cost me $35 to fix. There are some major good deals out there on these amps used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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