Members Phrophus Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by Hapless No. I'm pretty sure that it depends on the jurisdiction and the individual circumstances, but that there have been cases where damages were awarded based on claims of unlawful detention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TurboRotary13b Posted January 3, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by HKSblade1 Good on you!{censored} Thieves! of course these {censored}ers will get community service on some misdemeanor and be right back at it. The cop said that this was her second time getting caught at Best Buy.. Originally Posted by wok If only the thief had a gun.... wait, what? I had my .45 on me.. All was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TurboRotary13b Posted January 3, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by HKSblade1 Good on you!{censored} Thieves! of course these {censored}ers will get community service on some misdemeanor and be right back at it. The cop said that this was her second time getting caught at Best Buy.. Originally Posted by wok If only the thief had a gun.... wait, what? I had my .45 on me.. All was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members El Glom-o Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by Miter Gauge I've always wondered what would happen if store security stopped and detained a suspected shoplifter who didn't actually steal anything - if that sort of thing ever happens. Could the guy press charges for kidnapping or unlawful detention or something like that? Originally Posted by Hapless No. Originally Posted by Phrophus I'm pretty sure that it depends on the jurisdiction and the individual circumstances, but that there have been cases where damages were awarded based on claims of unlawful detention. It happened to film-maker John Waters in the late '60's (laws may have changed since then).Actually, he WAS shoplifting record albums, but spotted the store detective and knew he had been seen in the act. He managed to put the albums back without being seen, so when they stopped him outside the store and detained him, he sued and won the case, and collected $3000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members El Glom-o Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by Miter Gauge I've always wondered what would happen if store security stopped and detained a suspected shoplifter who didn't actually steal anything - if that sort of thing ever happens. Could the guy press charges for kidnapping or unlawful detention or something like that? Originally Posted by Hapless No. Originally Posted by Phrophus I'm pretty sure that it depends on the jurisdiction and the individual circumstances, but that there have been cases where damages were awarded based on claims of unlawful detention. It happened to film-maker John Waters in the late '60's (laws may have changed since then).Actually, he WAS shoplifting record albums, but spotted the store detective and knew he had been seen in the act. He managed to put the albums back without being seen, so when they stopped him outside the store and detained him, he sued and won the case, and collected $3000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hapless Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by Phrophus I'm pretty sure that it depends on the jurisdiction and the individual circumstances, but that there have been cases where damages were awarded based on claims of unlawful detention. No doubt; however, the phrasing of the question implied criminal charges. If there were articulable facts and the detention was terminated once the suspicion was determined to be unfounded, I'd say even a civil suit would be difficult to win. In Illinois, "shopkeepers" are given a pretty wide latitude to detain suspected shoplifters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hapless Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by Phrophus I'm pretty sure that it depends on the jurisdiction and the individual circumstances, but that there have been cases where damages were awarded based on claims of unlawful detention. No doubt; however, the phrasing of the question implied criminal charges. If there were articulable facts and the detention was terminated once the suspicion was determined to be unfounded, I'd say even a civil suit would be difficult to win. In Illinois, "shopkeepers" are given a pretty wide latitude to detain suspected shoplifters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phrophus Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by Hapless No doubt; however, the phrasing of the question implied criminal charges. If there were articulable facts and the detention was terminated once the suspicion was determined to be unfounded, I'd say even a civil suit would be difficult to win. In Illinois, "shopkeepers" are given a pretty wide latitude to detain suspected shoplifters. I just chalked up the phrasing of the question to a layman's terminology but wanted to point out that there can be repercussions depending on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phrophus Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by Hapless No doubt; however, the phrasing of the question implied criminal charges. If there were articulable facts and the detention was terminated once the suspicion was determined to be unfounded, I'd say even a civil suit would be difficult to win. In Illinois, "shopkeepers" are given a pretty wide latitude to detain suspected shoplifters. I just chalked up the phrasing of the question to a layman's terminology but wanted to point out that there can be repercussions depending on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hapless Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by Phrophus I just chalked up the phrasing of the question to a layman's terminology but wanted to point out that there can be repercussions depending on the situation. Ok. I should have answered, "In general, no." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hapless Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by Phrophus I just chalked up the phrasing of the question to a layman's terminology but wanted to point out that there can be repercussions depending on the situation. Ok. I should have answered, "In general, no." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevetemp Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 ^^^ Maybe still in jail? I'd like to know what the "guard" at the door was doing the whole time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevetemp Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 ^^^ Maybe still in jail? I'd like to know what the "guard" at the door was doing the whole time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miter Gauge Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Originally Posted by Phrophus I just chalked up the phrasing of the question to a layman's terminology but wanted to point out that there can be repercussions depending on the situation. I imagine there could be some tricky situations where someone with some serious self defense skills thought the detention was unjustified and voiced his disagreement on the store securities' asses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miter Gauge Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Originally Posted by Phrophus I just chalked up the phrasing of the question to a layman's terminology but wanted to point out that there can be repercussions depending on the situation. I imagine there could be some tricky situations where someone with some serious self defense skills thought the detention was unjustified and voiced his disagreement on the store securities' asses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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