Members Etienne Rambert Posted May 8, 2004 Members Share Posted May 8, 2004 Two guys fingerpicking two or three pretty expensive-acoustic guitars-not simulating them on their expensive synths It's a brand new recording. I am fingerpicking my playing partner, Peter Streit's Taylor. I don't know what model. It's a nice one. He wants me to buy it for $1.6k and it's 12 years old. He's finger-picking his Collings. He's also playing a Clarence-White Byrds-Tele-kind of lead on his Red Mexican Strat. I think he is playing his big blonde 30 year old Guild in here too. There are a lot of strings jangling around. I wish we'd put a high-string part on it instead. I sing & I play the bass on his Yamaha S-80 synth acoustic-bass patch. (Nice bass sound!)Can't beat synth basses anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members S~R~O Posted May 8, 2004 Members Share Posted May 8, 2004 marcellisVery Nice........I like it....and you don't even sound like yer from N'awlins:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted May 8, 2004 Author Members Share Posted May 8, 2004 Steve-0: That's cuz we recorded it in Dallas. If we'd done it local, we'd have added horns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cams Posted May 8, 2004 Members Share Posted May 8, 2004 Originally posted by marcellis Steve-0: That's cuz we recorded it in Dallas. If we'd done it local, we'd have added horns. What, no tubas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ronaldo Posted May 8, 2004 Members Share Posted May 8, 2004 Wow. I really liked that. Great singing and songwriting. Great tone. So American. Really fantastic, no kidding. Reminds me of Kris Kristopherson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orsino Posted May 8, 2004 Members Share Posted May 8, 2004 I love it Marcellis! And I think that the title..."Two guys fingerpicking two or three pretty expensive-acoustic guitars-not simulating them on their expensive synths" may go down in history as the greatest C+W tune title of all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted May 9, 2004 Author Members Share Posted May 9, 2004 Thanks Orsino. I can't build guitars. I can't afford Peter's 1.6K Taylor he wants to sell me. But you're right. It's a catchy title. Peter has this software reverb plug, "Altiverb" We used it on my voice. I'm not a good singer. But the Altiverb reverb plug makes even my voice sound good. I was amazed. I was a hardware guy before I heard that. Now I see the potential of software plugs. It's the richest, best-sounding vocal reverb I've ever used. But it's only made for Mac's as far as I know. Two guys fingerpicking two or three pretty expensive-acoustic guitars-not simulating them on their expensive synths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ericburnley Posted May 10, 2004 Members Share Posted May 10, 2004 This is indeed really good. Great song and recording! and i've really been feeling those lyrics lately. thanks for sharing it, & good luck with the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted May 12, 2004 Author Members Share Posted May 12, 2004 Thanks Eric Burnley. Two ways to take the lyrics. (1). They are corny. (2). They are not corny. I wrote them under the second assumption. But I can see the other side. I know how to string words together. I don't think I'm a good lyricist actually. But I've had plays published and performed poetry & legal articles too. My plays are better than my lyrics. They're comedies.I can always measure how good they are by how hard people are laughing. With lyrics or poems, I get no measurable results. So I don't think my lyrics or my poetry are very good. But Univ. of West Va. thought they were. This year they put me in a volume on Sixty-six Lawyer-Poets in America. . It's kind of cool. They invited me. I didn't have to submit anything. Lawyers and poets both pay close attention to the meanings, implications and the sound of words. Lyricists are almost poets. But the music is a prosthetic device. It supports words and phrases that couldn't stand on their own as poetry. Creative writing to me, is pure agony.It's like having a root canal without anesthesia. Music is a breeze. It's not even work. That's why I compose many more instrumentals than songs with lyrics. If you ever meet someone who enjoys writing lyrics, either they are lousy writers, or they are geniuses. At least, that's my experience. Cole Porter, Johnny Mercer, Ira Gershwin, Woody Guthrie, Jimmie Rodgers, John Prine, Tom Waits, Leonard Cohen, Lightfoot, Dylan, they're geniuses. As for me - I'd rather write instrumentals. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ericburnley Posted May 12, 2004 Members Share Posted May 12, 2004 I'm somewhat in a similar mindset when it comes to lyrics: writing music comes much easier, and most of my prior creative music experience has been just in writing the music and leaving the lyrics to another member. Only recently have I begun writing lyrics, and it's been kind of difficult. Basically what I ended up doing most of the time was to make a recording of the music and then take it in the car for a few weeks and come up with melodies and words that sound (phonetically) good with the music. After a while, I started using certain phrases here and there, and then tried to sit down with those phrases and come up with some sort of cohesive lyric material. I've also tried recording a vocal track of just random phonetic mumbles/words that feel good with the music just to get vocal melodies down on tape (computer actually), and ended up using that track of 'words' that sounded good with the music and transforming them from something that sounds like an old Cocteau Twins lyric sheet into actual words/lyrics with a focal meaning. It's kind of like taking a puzzle and working backwards to fit a meaning into it, and has been a lot more fun than staring at a blank page telling myself to write something meaningful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted May 12, 2004 Author Members Share Posted May 12, 2004 Eric Burnley: "Basically what I ended up doing most of the time was to make a recording of the music and then take it in the car for a few weeks and come up with melodies and words that sound (phonetically) good with the music. .... "...I've also tried recording a vocal track of just random phonetic mumbles/words that feel good with the music just to get vocal melodies down on tape (computer actually)... _________ Whoa! That's a great idea. I've never thought of it. _________ "...and ended up using that track of 'words' that sounded good with the music and transforming them from something that sounds like an old Cocteau Twins lyric sheet into actual words/lyrics with a focal meaning. It's kind of like taking a puzzle and working backwards to fit a meaning into it...."_________ It sounds to me like you're a good lyricist. You put thought & effort into it, rather than using the first word or phrase that comes to mind. I'll contact you the next time I need some lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ericburnley Posted May 12, 2004 Members Share Posted May 12, 2004 one good thing that did for me was to make me listen to how the words sounded. in pushing to get some cohesive meaning out of those sounds, it made me come up with some different word phrasings i'd have never thought of on my own. also made me really think about what i was writing.sort of like plopping blobs of paint on a canvas abstractly and then trying to make a picture out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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