Members BowerR64 Posted May 1, 2005 Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 Say you used 10s at normal A440 tunning and the springs were set to full float the bridge. How many pounds of force would you guess? How many pounds do you think a fixed bridge has using 10s at A440 (the standard tuning not dropped) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pope on a Rope Posted May 1, 2005 Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 If you can add up the total tension of all six strings and average them between the two posts you should have your answer. You should find the tension of each string on the string packaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR64 Posted May 1, 2005 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 mine dont say the tension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pope on a Rope Posted May 1, 2005 Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 My D'addarios have the tensions listed. Would't help you though, I use .011's. Try checking the string manufacturer's site or another's website that might list them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FalseRevRG Posted May 1, 2005 Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 D'Addario .10s: lbs / kg E: 14.8 / 6.71 A: 17.5 / 7.94 D: 19.5 / 8.84 G: 16.6 / 7.53 B: 15.4 / 6.98 E: 16.2 / 7.35 total: 100 / 45.35 so each post has 50lbs or 22.675kg on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR64 Posted May 1, 2005 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 Originally posted by FalseRevRG D'Addario .10s: lbs / kgE: 14.8 / 6.71A: 17.5 / 7.94D: 19.5 / 8.84G: 16.6 / 7.53B: 15.4 / 6.98E: 16.2 / 7.35total: 100 / 45.35so each post has 50lbs or 22.675kg on it. WOW! i was gona guess around 5-10 pounds. What about a full floating tremolo? wouldnt that double? since it has to have equal tension on both sides to balance out the bridge so it floats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FalseRevRG Posted May 1, 2005 Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 Originally posted by BowerR64 WOW! i was gona guess around 5-10 pounds. What about a full floating tremolo? wouldnt that double? since it has to have equal tension on both sides to balance out the bridge so it floats? i dunno, maybe...you'd think it'd also maybe increase due to the small surface that actually contacts the post...at least in terms of pounds/square inch. i suppose i could ask my friend who used to be a physics major... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR64 Posted May 1, 2005 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 That would be alot if there is that much tension on the posts AND the neck!Wonder what 11s or 12s are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FalseRevRG Posted May 1, 2005 Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 Originally posted by FalseRevRG i dunno, maybe...you'd think it'd also maybe increase due to the small surface that actually contacts the post...at least in terms of pounds/square inch. i suppose i could ask my friend who used to be a physics major... i asked my friend, he said you'd also have to account for the supporting forces (the body holding the posts in place) and the length of the bridge, and a couple other factors, if you wanted to know the total force on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR64 Posted May 1, 2005 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 I dont see how it would matter, If you think of the floyd as a teetor totter the knife edge is the center pivot point. If you have one kid who is 50 pounds on one side you would need another 50 pound kid on the other to keep the balance. Once its level the center should be supporting the total of the 2 kids as long as its level and not leaning one way or the other.I kinda figured this but what i didnt know was how much force the strings have once they are in tune. 70 pounds for a set of 009s is shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georges Posted May 1, 2005 Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 D'Addario .10s: lbs / kg E: 14.8 / 6.71 A: 17.5 / 7.94 D: 19.5 / 8.84 G: 16.6 / 7.53 B: 15.4 / 6.98 E: 16.2 / 7.35 total: 100 / 45.35 so each post has 50lbs or 22.675kg on it. floyd posts would have 45.35 kg then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FalseRevRG Posted May 1, 2005 Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 Originally posted by georges D'Addario .10s:lbs / kgE: 14.8 / 6.71A: 17.5 / 7.94D: 19.5 / 8.84G: 16.6 / 7.53B: 15.4 / 6.98E: 16.2 / 7.35total: 100 / 45.35so each post has 50lbs or 22.675kg on it.floyd posts would have 45.35 kg then? for both together, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georges Posted May 1, 2005 Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 Originally posted by FalseRevRG for both together, yes. what I mean is that for a floyd to float there has to be equal spring tension? Or is there different amounts of leverage? Because that would at to the pressure on the posts,or am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR64 Posted May 2, 2005 Author Members Share Posted May 2, 2005 oh yeah! good thinkin, the strings are closer to the posts then the springs so the leverage would be different. The springs use that long block that the base of the tremolo bolts to so in a sence the springs are using a lever. Maybe this is why the floyd feels softer to move then the steinberger. The lever on the berger tremolo isnt as deep as the floyd. Dang i never thought of that Ibanez sells 2 different size blocks for their edge, i wonder how the longer block would feel compaired to the stock one. Might be really soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Buerk Posted May 2, 2005 Members Share Posted May 2, 2005 Originally posted by FalseRevRG D'Addario .10s: lbs / kgE: 14.8 / 6.71A: 17.5 / 7.94D: 19.5 / 8.84G: 16.6 / 7.53B: 15.4 / 6.98E: 16.2 / 7.35total: 100 / 45.35so each post has 50lbs or 22.675kg on it. ... assuming that it's a 25.5" scale. For other scale lengths, you'll have to calculate the tension. Here's a link to the Tension article on my website: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AceVentura Posted May 2, 2005 Members Share Posted May 2, 2005 Originally posted by BowerR64 Wonder what 11s or 12s are? .012-.052 Lbs. kgE 23.3 / 10.57B 23.3 / 10.57 G 28.1 / 12.74 D 28.1 / 12.74A 26.3 / 11.93E 22.0 / 9.98 25.5" scale lenght guitars:]I use them in standard tuning on 24.75". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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