Members homestar Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 hullo...so i didnt want to start 2 threads so heres a 2 in 1 for you guys... 1) how hard would it be to add binding to a guitar? i mean, to do it right...make it look factory (is this possible? obviously ill have a pro do it) 2) my telecaster plus deluxe with tremsetter weighs a lot more than my old telecaster plus without the trem...odd, thought they were made from the same wood. could it be the trem? i was thinking, if it was possible it added a few pounds to the whole thing...and if that was true, how i can go about making it weigh less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Treborklow Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 Originally posted by homestar hullo...so i didnt want to start 2 threads so heres a 2 in 1 for you guys...1) how hard would it be to add binding to a guitar? i mean, to do it right...make it look factory (is this possible? obviously ill have a pro do it)2) my telecaster plus deluxe with tremsetter weighs a lot more than my old telecaster plus without the trem...odd, thought they were made from the same wood. could it be the trem? i was thinking, if it was possible it added a few pounds to the whole thing...and if that was true, how i can go about making it weigh less 1)The Fender factory workers/craftsmen are just regular people with the right tools and knowhow. So really, anyone outside of the factory with the right tools and knowhow could do it as well. If they can build the guitar with binding, I would think it would be possible to add it after it is built. 2)The trem might be adding some weight, but it is probably the wood. Each hunk could weigh in different depending on the amount of moisture or minerials in each piece. Take the Les Paul for instance, I have seen 8 pound LPs and 12 pound ones. Same model guitar, different weights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Telefonic Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 I'm not good with woodworking, but I'd say that routing the edges of a guitar with a finish on it would be dicey, especially if its a poly finish. If you're just going to refin the whole thing, then it's probably not as big a deal. You might look into just getting a new, bound body and selling the old one...might not be a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarNed Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 I agree. The Fender craftspeople have the advantage of not yet having applied finish to the body when they route for the binding and put the binding on. Often there is a clearcoat that causes the binding to be part of the guitar, under the clearcoat same as the body. I wrote that confusingly but it should be decipherable! Short answer: don't plan on getting it done. I also agree that the wood is more likely to be the explanation for differences in weight, rather the trem. Gibson LP standards are the extreme example of this: they use the same woods but can vary by up to 3 pounds from one to another. (Although 3 pounds is a maximum range, and it would be very unusual for 2 LP standards to actually differ by 3 full pounds.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k4df4l Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 Originally posted by homestar 1) how hard would it be to add binding to a guitar? i mean, to do it right...make it look factory (is this possible? obviously ill have a pro do it) possible, sure...practical, no. How much are you willing to spend cause its gonna get pricey considering it will need a strip and refin. As previously suggested, an already bound body or perhaps some faux binding would be a cheaper and easier route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tweedledee Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 Another option is to refinish the guitar and create a faux binding. This is accomplished by starting with a base coat of whatever you want the binding color to be, masking that off wherever you want the binding, then spraying on the color coats for whatever color you want the rest of the guitar to be. It can be less expensive (and invasive) than adding real binding and if done correctly it can look incredible. Here's a picture of a guitar that went through this process. It's owned by a forum member who goes by the name BootRoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BootRoots Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 ha ha, I was gonna chime in with that. Don DiMasi aka Shovelhead around here did, the refin and it turned out fantastic. you can't tell its not real binding from a foot away. he even added a bit ofamber tint to the clear coat to give it a bit of an aged look. I understand he just purchased a new business so I'm not sure how much time that leaves him for guitar work, but I highly recommend him if you are looking to have something like this done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k4df4l Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 Originally posted by BootRoots ha ha, I was gonna chime in with that. Don DiMasi aka Shovelhead around here did, the refin and it turned out fantastic. you can't tell its not real binding from a foot away. he even added a bit ofamber tint to the clear coat to give it a bit of an aged look.I understand he just purchased a new business so I'm not sure how much time that leaves him for guitar work, but I highly recommend him if you are looking to have something like this done. you and your dam beautiful guitar....grrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fanuvbrak Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 Here's opne where the body was thinned and a walnut cap was put all around it with binding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MadtownMoxie Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 Originally posted by BootRoots ha ha, I was gonna chime in with that. Don DiMasi aka Shovelhead around here did, the refin and it turned out fantastic. you can't tell its not real binding from a foot away. he even added a bit ofamber tint to the clear coat to give it a bit of an aged look.I understand he just purchased a new business so I'm not sure how much time that leaves him for guitar work, but I highly recommend him if you are looking to have something like this done. I was gonna reccommend Shovelhead as well, he did a refin on someone's if (I remember correctly) Gothic Les Paul and added a Faux binding to that as well and it looked awesome. He does awe insoring work, I was trying to get a buddy of mine to have shovelhead refinish his Tele. He chose to go local. It looks good but I can tell it's now Shovelhead Job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tweedledee Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 Originally posted by BootRoots ha ha, I was gonna chime in with that. Don DiMasi aka Shovelhead around here did, the refin and it turned out fantastic. you can't tell its not real binding from a foot away. he even added a bit ofamber tint to the clear coat to give it a bit of an aged look. I understand he just purchased a new business so I'm not sure how much time that leaves him for guitar work, but I highly recommend him if you are looking to have something like this done. Beat ya to it! I just love the look of that guitar so much that whenever someone mentions binding and Teles it's the first thing that pops into my mind. In my opinion, you have the best looking Tele on these forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k4df4l Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 Originally posted by Tweedledee Beat ya to it! hmmm...faux binding, I should have though of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BootRoots Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 Originally posted by Tweedledee In my opinion, you have the best looking Tele on these forums. thanks but it was really HEAVILY inspired by the a tele that don finished for himself. seen here on the reranch gallery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GilmourD Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 The biggest problem posed by adding binding, once you exclude finish issues, is the fact that the body has a radiused edge that's thicker than your typical binding. If you go multi layer like an LP Custom, you could probably get away with it, but standard Tele Custom style binding won't be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tweedledee Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 Originally posted by k4df4l hmmm...faux binding, I should have though of that. I didn't mean that I beat him to posting about faux binding, I meant that I beat him to posting about his own guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k4df4l Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 Originally posted by Tweedledee I didn't mean that I beat him to posting about faux binding, I meant that I beat him to posting about his own guitar. I know...I was yanking your chain. *yanked* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tweedledee Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 Originally posted by k4df4l I know...I was yanking your chain. *yanked* I feel violated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BootRoots Posted April 12, 2006 Members Share Posted April 12, 2006 get a room you two:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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