Members geng Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 I have American deluxe stratocaster v-neck with Samarian Cobalt pickups and S-1 switching system. I rarely use the S-1 switch and have problem because the low notes are so boomy and the treble notes are so trebly-piercing. My musicman axis Sport has thicker tone, more bass and just as much treble without this bassboomy/treble problem at all. Is it the pickups? Or is it the strat? Should I replace pickups? Or sell my strat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rich Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 The S-1 is a crap gimmick. It doesn't mimmick a tight humbucker, it just adds inarticulate flub.When I had my Am. Dlx., I never used it. I however, did love all the other pickup settings.........Untill I played it next to a real EJ strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted October 10, 2006 Moderators Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by Rich Untill I played it next to a real EJ strat. OK, OK, I'm {censored}ing sick to the back teeth of this...................tell me..............please??............on the basis that practically all Strats are equal in terms of wood and hardware, why do all EJ owners start squirting cum everywhere when they refer to their EJs? I take it it must be the pups and electronics.............take the neck out of the equation as necks are personal, but could you try and explain why this particular guitar gets so many plaudits?....I'm just gonna lie down for a few minutes:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frets99 Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 It'll be alright!! First we check for fever!Then we send you your very own EJ "cum as you are" stratocaster!!! :DThe New Gold Standard!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted October 10, 2006 Moderators Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by Frets99 It'll be alright!! First we check for fever! Then we send you your very own EJ "cum as you are" stratocaster!!! :D The New Gold Standard!! :D I'm OK really:freak: I think maybe coffee doesn't suit me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bardsley Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 It is the pickups. S1 switching can be useful, but the pickups are {censored}. If you want noiseless, I like Kinmans. If noise isn't an issue, the world is your oyster for good single coils. Keep the S-1 switch with whatever you choose. You may not use it much, but it's a nice little gimmick at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members geng Posted October 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 So you think I should consider change pickups? Swap the Scn pickups and install kinman? Or sell my deluxe and get EJ strat??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted October 10, 2006 Moderators Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by geng So you think I should consider change pickups? Swap the Scn pickups and install kinman? Or sell my deluxe and get EJ strat??? I would try some adjustment of the pickup heights first if I were you. The SCNs are fine Strat pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rich Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by geng So you think I should consider change pickups? Swap the Scn pickups and install kinman? Or sell my deluxe and get EJ strat??? The SMC pickups sound better distorted and compress up way more than the EJ pickups. The Am. Dlx. is a good strat, but it's pickups do not do a very good job of approximating the underwound sound that you get from origional style strat pickups like those on the EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Andre XXX Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by Ratae Coritanorum OK, OK, I'm {censored}ing sick to the back teeth of this...................tell me..............please??............on the basis that practically all Strats are equal in terms of wood and hardware, why do all EJ owners start squirting cum everywhere when they refer to their EJs? I take it it must be the pups and electronics.............take the neck out of the equation as necks are personal, but could you try and explain why this particular guitar gets so many plaudits?....I'm just gonna lie down for a few minutes:D LOL - this is great !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 I like my two Deluxe strats. (one ash/ebony the other alder/maple)But I hear what you are saying about the "boomy" But I like it. Mimics HB tone surprisingly well IMO.I also wish people (including my stepson) would quit saying how great EJ strats are. I just bought a few strats this year, including an SRV and these threads are making me think I "F'd" up not getting the EJ. But then I console myself that my playing is not deserving of an EJ. Maybe I'll sell some gear someday to pursue this holy grail. Got a another strat arriving today. A new chrome silver American Series HSS for $699.95! Also w S-Switching.I'm a junkie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpiritOfTheAge Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by Ratae Coritanorum OK, OK, I'm {censored}ing sick to the back teeth of this...................tell me..............please??............on the basis that practically all Strats are equal in terms of wood and hardware, why do all EJ owners start squirting cum everywhere when they refer to their EJs? I take it it must be the pups and electronics.............take the neck out of the equation as necks are personal, but could you try and explain why this particular guitar gets so many plaudits?....I'm just gonna lie down for a few minutes:D Yeah im wondering about this aswell (altough im not quiet so worked up about it). What pickups do they have in them then? What makes them so loved by those that play them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rich Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 The EJ has some of the glassiest, articulate pickups in it I have ever owned. I owned an Am Dlx, and it just doesn't compare to the EJ. Maybe it's the quartersawn neck, lightweight two piece body and the underwound pickups, but it's an entirely different guitar than my Am Dlx was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratAttackJack Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 If you know what you're doing the S1 switch can be useful, you can't just turn it on and expect humbucker tone - I sure as hell don't, but you get more tones that (again if you know what the hell you're doing) can be very useful. I think the SCN's are great. Comparing it to an EJ is like apples and oranges. The EJ has true single coils for one, and fender made like 16 or so sets of pickups before EJ was even happy. The thing is, they did all that work for him and some people still don't like them --- that shows you exactly how much of a personal thing pickup preference is. By the way I have the v neck as well and almost traded it off for the EJ. My deluxe just had some set up problems that luckly I've been able to get fixed (finally!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Isn't there also something about the pickups being direct mounted (i.e. not floating) to the body on the EJ? I believe that contributes to the tone as well. Plus it's also a 6-pt trem which I understand is considered by some to be a better tone setup than the 2 pt fulcrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members geng Posted October 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Is it possible that I have lower the pickups to much from the strings? Should I get it closer to the strings? Will I lose sustain if I do so? I like my strat - the only thing I'm not satisfied with is this extra contrast. I like soloing, lets say, from E1, 12th fret to E6 (lowest) but need to switch to the bridge pickup when I go for that low E. I dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratAttackJack Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by geng Is it possible that I have lower the pickups to much from the strings? Should I get it closer to the strings? Will I lose sustain if I do so?I like my strat - the only thing I'm not satisfied with is this extra contrast. I like soloing, lets say, from E1, 12th fret to E6 (lowest) but need to switch to the bridge pickup when I go for that low E. I dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigMac5 Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 DAMN YOU GUYS! I just got an American Dlx Strat V neck and you are making me want to return it and get the Eric Johnson strat. i have 45 days to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratAttackJack Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 ^^You are the 100th person in the last couple weeks to make a statement like that I was one of them!! I've actually made it a couple times. I've decided I'd really regret it if I did that. One day I'll have an EJ though! I'll just wait till I can afford one, then I'll have both guitars and be happy.... for awhile anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigMac5 Posted October 11, 2006 Members Share Posted October 11, 2006 Originally posted by StratAttackJack ^^ You are the 100th person in the last couple weeks to make a statement like that I was one of them!! I've actually made it a couple times. I've decided I'd really regret it if I did that. One day I'll have an EJ though! I'll just wait till I can afford one, then I'll have both guitars and be happy.... for awhile anyways I hear you, I actualy dont think the SCN are that bad. I have a Custom shop showmaster that has two Fat 50's and have compared the tone. The s-1 is a nice addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCTC Posted October 11, 2006 Members Share Posted October 11, 2006 The Eric Johnson Strat is the best production Fender Strat out today. Every one I've played has been nothing short of amazing.I swear its the neck radius and the nitrocellulouse. The Gibson players are drawn to that neck, and the nitro paint just makes it sing.If I were in the market for a Strat, without hesitation I would pick up a white one.Jeeeeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bardsley Posted October 11, 2006 Members Share Posted October 11, 2006 Ok, I'll back off a little from what I said before. The scns are not {censored} pickups, and definitely fool around with pickup heights before giving up on them. However, if you're adjusting them to track down the sound of a classic fender, they don't have it. If noise isn't a big deal, there are much better pickups, even by Fender. And if it is, I think there are much better, more traditional sounding singles from other companies. But I do like S-1 switching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted October 11, 2006 Moderators Share Posted October 11, 2006 Originally posted by TomVanDeven I swear its the neck radius and the nitrocellulouse. The Gibson players are drawn to that neck, and the nitro paint just makes it sing. Paint does not a guitar make....as it's an electrical guitar, it'll be the electricals/pickups...nothing else, the rest is the same as millions of other guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rich Posted October 11, 2006 Members Share Posted October 11, 2006 Don't trade your Am Dlx guitars in, with the notion that the EJ will sound like them. It will not. It is a very rude and articulate guitar, and will expose sloppy playing. You will not be able to hide behid gain with the EJ.Oh and my EJ's pickups are not noisless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zb0430 Posted October 11, 2006 Members Share Posted October 11, 2006 Originally posted by Ratae Coritanorum Paint does not a guitar make....as it's an electrical guitar, it'll be the electricals/pickups...nothing else, the rest is the same as millions of other guitars. Of course it doesn't "make" the guitar. It just contributes to its tone, as well as the electronics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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