Members n8wood Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 I picked up a used SG Faded last week and I'm working on intonating it. I tune low (drop C#) and I'm having a tough time getting the top string right. Does anyone have any tips for using low tunings on an SG? On my Fenders I would take out the spring in the bridge saddle which would give me just enough to intonate properly. I was looking at this tailpiece from Stewart MacDonald: But I'm not sure it will actually help. Since the tailpiece is located behind the bridge I'm thinking it won't affect the intonation at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlw001 Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 I don't think that will help you because when you intonate you are changing the length of the string from the saddle to the nut. I think wilkinsen(sp?) may make a tunematic style bridge with extra saddle travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr JinX Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 that will do nothing but cost money and look kinda neatI tune my faded SG to C standard and I'm right at the end of my travel on a couple of strings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr_GoodBomb Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 Trouble getting it right, tuning or action? I tune to drop C and have had little issues with it. Let us know what the issue is. Speaking of drop C# and on SGs, check out Comeback Kid and This Is Hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members placeboemotion Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 TonePros bridges have slightly extended saddle travel ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members n8wood Posted February 11, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 The action is fine, the problem is getting it to intonate right. It's almost there, I just need to pull that saddle back a few more turns further. Maybe it has something to do with the string gauge (11's) that I use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members n8wood Posted February 11, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 TonePros bridges have slightly extended saddle travel ... Thanks, is this what you're referring to? http://www.music123.com/TonePros-Metric-Locking-Tune-O-Matic-Bridge--large-posts--306149-i1128083.Music123 Kinda expensive, but not as bad as the one with Graphtech saddles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members placeboemotion Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 No - your link shows the metric one (also called LARGE POSTS), which fits to Epiphone and other imports if I am not mistaken. The US models needs to be SMALL POSTS ... not the metric one ... Here the intonation issue is explicitly mentioned: TonePros Model AVR-II(Advanced Vintage Replacement II) This model is the exact replacement for the bridges found on older or vintage instruments originally fitted with ABR-1 style bridges. This locking model has the complete appearance of the vintage part, but has many upgrades including more intonation range, and saddles that are "engineered in" solid, preventing "lift" against the retainer wire. Retrofit for most Vintage and reissued USA guitars without modification. Extra tight construction eliminates rattles and improves sustain. However, I do not know the differences between the TonePros models ... perhaps someone can chime in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members n8wood Posted February 11, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 Looks like this is it:http://www.music123.com/TonePros-AVR-II-Locking-Tuneomatic-Bridge-300229-i1374104.Music123?cm_mmc=$(channel)$-_-TonePros-_-Guitar%20Replacement%20Parts-_-TonePros%20AVR-II%20Locking%20Tuneomatic%20Bridge&source=ZWFRWXX&mr:trackingCode=4DD27962-9BD5-DC11-AA92-001422107090&mr:referralID=NA It doesn't explicitly say it fits the SG, but I'm having trouble getting any good info on it. Does anyone use this bridge here? There is also this which has the saddles already notched:http://www.music123.com/TonePros-Standard-Locking-Tune-o-matic--small-posts--Notched-Saddles-306148-i1128079.Music123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members book_of_lies777 Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 I have no problem tuning to drop C on my Les Paul, which has the same bridge/tail piece as your SG... what guage strings are you using? Some people tend to use freakin' cables, but I don't know why. I use plain old 10-46s and they work just fine. If I were to go lower, which I'm not interested in doing, I'd probably go to 11s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members n8wood Posted February 11, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 I use 11's (.11-.50). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbbeSauniere Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 Heavier gauge strings will give you a more accurate intonation and less "spaghetti feel" . It's possible that it just won't intonate perfectly after going to a heavier gauge though. I had an old SG and my Les Paul set up for a B standard tuning with 13 gauge strings and the intonation was a hair off on a couple strings. I would recommend the Nashville style Tonepros Bridge over the ABR-1. Gives you more room for saddle adjustment. It's the Tonepros Model T3BP. Should be a direct drop in replacement on your SG Faded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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