Members servants Posted February 9, 2010 Members Share Posted February 9, 2010 Need help in replacing my DBX driverack. I have 2 EV ZX4's for mains and 2 Yorkville LS808's for subs. I dont really like the driverack . I'm looking for a crossover to replace it. Something that is easier to use, up to $400.00 range. Any help is apreciated. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarharv52 Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 DBX223XL is under $200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members servants Posted February 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 Thanks, How about the BBE DS24 or BBE DS26? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dennis a Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 What DriveRack unit do you have? Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members servants Posted February 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 The Driverack PA it is about 3 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dennis a Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 I have a BSS FDS360 with 100Hz cards. It's an older and discontinued unit but was pricey when new. Do you have any interest in some kind of trade? Check it out here...http://www.bssaudio.com/discont_productpg.php?product_id=5 Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TimmyP Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 Which DriveRack? Telling us what you don't like about the DriveRack may help us weed out others that might not suit you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members banddad Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 In addition to the DBX223, the Ashly XR1001 is a nice 2-way analog crossover. Simple, easy to use, rugged, with a touch of elegance IMO. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members allexcosta Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 I've used DBX and RANE. Happy with both... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MainEventSound Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 +1 for the Ashly XR1001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 Rane SAC22B gets my vote for ease of use (Mojo version is called MX22). DBX223XL and Rane AC22B as well. Stay away from behringer, nady, gemini etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members servants Posted February 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 Which DriveRack? Telling us what you don't like about the DriveRack may help us weed out others that might not suit you. It is the Driverack PA. It is more complicated to use then what I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stix 518 Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 Timmy: I was originally using a dbx 223XL crossover... pretty simple to use, and picked up a Driverack PA on the cheap. Originally I thought it was pretty complicated, too. After some discussion/recommendations here, I decided to spend a bit of time and really learn the unit - online info, manual, etc. then simply played with the unit (you can't really screw anything up because you can always go back to factory presets). Yes, there are a lot of pieces/parts to configure... if you want to. If not, the DRPA makes an exceptional crossover with a bit more bells and whistles. In order to optimize, you really have to set up the crossover correctly then set the Gain structure which is the most important thing you can do. Check out the Dbx Forum for some real, in-depth info on a step-by-step set-up to optimize the DRPA. I swear my system sounded 10X better after I set up my DRPA. To date, I haven't used the RTA as I don't have one, so I'm not really taking full advantage of the unit - yet - but I can tell you, the sound is substantially better through the DRPA than it was through the standard crossover (thank you everyone that suggested I go for it). One more thing, I haven't changed a setting yet for any live event. I still use my 2X31-band rack eq for FOH & Mons bypassing the DRPA PEQ & GEQ's. Again, not taking full advantage of what I have. Don't get discouraged or overwhelmed by all the techie stuff. Give it real a go, you may be pleasantly surprised like I was. Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rezrover Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 I "learned" on the DRPA, then I sold it and got a DRPA+ which seems to be a little more user friendly. The DRPA+ also has the tuning presets for the speakers you are using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gomer Pyle Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 I like the Peavey VSX 26. It's a full feature processor, is easy to setup and changes can be made on the fly. The only issue I have is at low levels it has this digital sounding growl. This is with the amp levels turned down as recommended and I'm not talking a ground loop. For the money it's a powerful tool and worth looking into, Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 I like the Peavey VSX 26. It's a full feature processor, is easy to setup and changes can be made on the fly. The only issue I have is at low levels it has this digital sounding growl. This is with the amp levels turned down as recommended and I'm not talking a ground loop. For the money it's a powerful tool and worth looking into, Paul. So is this noise (with the amps turned down none-the-less) consistent with a powerful tool and worth looking into, or is it a deal breaker? What happens if you turn the amps up to nominal 100% sensitivity??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1960LesPaul Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 Another happy DBX223XL user. The pa came with a DOD when I bought it. Big difference between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gomer Pyle Posted February 11, 2010 Members Share Posted February 11, 2010 So is this noise (with the amps turned down none-the-less) consistent with a powerful tool and worth looking into, or is it a deal breaker? What happens if you turn the amps up to nominal 100% sensitivity??? I haven't upgraded to the version 1.06 firmware yet, it is still 1.05, I hope it helps a bit. Although I have used it just for testing on my EAW rig, I initially set it up for my personal band rig, consisting of Yorkville M600 tops and the SW600 subs. It was very useful in taming the inherent honk in the M600s which I previously used a Furman parametric for. This system sounds better than ever now. Peavey recommends bringing the gains down which in theory is fine except it takes a volt meter and a marker to equalize them. The growl is not a deal breaker and I'll find the sweet spot for the gains as soon as I get a chance to mess with it a bit more, Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 11, 2010 Members Share Posted February 11, 2010 So, how much headroom do you have between the point that you clip your drive electronics and the point that you hit the limit point on the amps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members servants Posted February 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 11, 2010 Thanks to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gomer Pyle Posted February 11, 2010 Members Share Posted February 11, 2010 So, how much headroom do you have between the point that you clip your drive electronics and the point that you hit the limit point on the amps? I have more than enough headroom which tells me I need to bring my amp gains down more. Old habits are hard to break and after 35 years of running my amp gains at 100% it feels weird turning them down so low. The growl reminds me of my Moog Taurus pedals mixed with my the sound of my Hammond A100 with the pedal floored but not playing it. It's a wavey phasey type of growl. I'm sure it will be fine once I adjust everything properly, Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 11, 2010 Members Share Posted February 11, 2010 How many dB down from full sensitivity are you on the amps? Noise like that is not normal for a DSP device into a line level amp. Any noise should be 100dB down, barely audible up close and personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boomerweps Posted February 11, 2010 Members Share Posted February 11, 2010 If you really want to go back analog, you can get the already recommended dbx 223XL quite often for $100 used. I just sold one for that shipped ;>( I also have and use the DRPA and find it to be a decent unit. It replaces SEVERAL rack items, so the quantity of features and adjustments can be daunting. You just have to think of it as those several items as you go through the menus. The manual is the confusing part. You really need to take the manual and the DRPA by itself, plug it in near an easy chair, get an adult beverage and sit down and play with the thing, going through all the setting and menus when it won't miss up your system. I really only use it as a fancy crossover with speaker settings in it. I've RTAed with it and messed with the subharmonic syth but rarely do so. BUT I have setting stored in it for 6 FOH speaker variations using 3 sets of possible top, with or without one set of subs. And each of those speaker sets sound better to me with the DRPA. Boomerweps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members imnotded Posted February 11, 2010 Members Share Posted February 11, 2010 I also have and use the DRPA and find it to be a decent unit. It replaces SEVERAL rack items, so the quantity of features and adjustments can be daunting. You just have to think of it as those several items as you go through the menus. The manual is the confusing part. You really need to take the manual and the DRPA by itself, plug it in near an easy chair, get an adult beverage and sit down and play with the thing, going through all the setting and menus when it won't miss up your system.Boomerweps I wish I would have read this post a few years ago when I purchased a DRPA. I plugged it in a few hours before a show thinking it would be simple. I was wrong, and ended up returning it. Lately I have been wishing I still had it. So thanks to a member here I got a deal on a used one and its on its way. This time I plan on learning how to use it. I'm certain it will help the sound of my rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1960LesPaul Posted February 11, 2010 Members Share Posted February 11, 2010 Learning before trying to apply an application is certainly a wise decision. Not being a smarta$$ as rushing into something is my biggest problem. I have avoided disaster so far but who knows when the other shoe is going to drop lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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