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The Boss RC-3 or Digitech Jamman Solo XT loop pedal?

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  • The Boss RC-3 or Digitech Jamman Solo XT loop pedal?

    Hi everyone! I'm new here and need your help. I just finished my pedalboard which took me 4 year's to get it perfect and need a small loop pedal. I narrowed down to the Boss RC-3 or Digitech's Solo XT so I can put one right on the pedalboard. Which one is easier to use and which one has better drum tracts installed? Thanks for all your help in advance!!!

  • #2

    I just got a Jamman Solo and figured out how to work the thing in about 10 minutes. Sounds good, no tone suck, and going in to edit and save loops isn't a hassle. I don't use the drum beats at all but the little bit I scrolled through them they sounded ok to use for practicing at home. Got mine on ebay for $135 shipped and it was brand new.

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    • #3
      Thanks for the reply and congrats on your new pedal! I've found a few used in like new condition online through the Used Guitar Center stores at decent prices. Have you ever tried a Boss, Conky?

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      • conky
        conky commented
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        I played the RC2 and didnt like it. Havent played the RC3 yet.


    • #4

      I have the RC3, and it's excellent.  Until the most recent firmware update from Boss, it did have one annoying thing-- if you wanted to switch between two different saved loops there would be this tiny (but noticeable) gap.  Not a big deal at home, but could be a dealbreaker if you're a guy who gigs loops.  In any case, the latest update fixed it completely, and now I am completely happy with the RC3. 

      That said, if I was buying right now I would probably grab the Solo XT because I love the idea of syncing two of them up.  Super cool for gigging complex loops or working with a bandmate who loops as well.

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      • #5
        Thanks for your help El Gallo Negro! How do the drum tracts sound? I don't need it to gig with. I just want one for practise and for saving song ideas. I called both Digitech and Roland (Boss) and they said I could download WAV files for adding extra backing tracts. Also, is there a time limit for each memory slot? For instance could I loop continuously for ten or so minutes in just one slot? Sorry for all the questions and thanks for all your help and patience!

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        • #6

          Unfortunately I'm the wrong dude to ask about the drum tracks, because I never use them.  I have read a few people say that they are a little underwhelming, but as you say, you could always import other drum tracks if you want.

          As for loop time, I think it has just an overall storage capacity-- can't remember how much, but it's quite a bit-- and you can distribute that however you like amongst the 99 slots.

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          • DigiTechRep
            DigiTechRep commented
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            The new JamMan SoloXT has drum tracks that were performed by Pat Mastelotto of King Crimson,  XTC, The Sugarcubes, Hall and Oates, Matthew Sweet, Robyn Hithcock, David Sylvian, Mr. Mister, etc. etc. etc.  So they don't suck.


        • #7

          I didn't know about those drum tracks, but I love that sync feature.  Like I said, if I was doing it over right now I'd probably go with the Solo XT.

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          • #8
            Thanks for all the help! I saw a good video on how to use the Solo XT and it looked easy to use. Thanks for letting me know about the drum tracts as well. Like I said I found some for just under $100 in

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            • #9
              DigiTechRep or Conky, I remember reading about people having issues using the software for the JamMan and solo XT's software. What are the issues? in other words what are the problems that the people are speaking of and is there a way to get around them? Also, do you just download the software from digitech's home website?

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              • DigiTechRep
                DigiTechRep commented
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                It took us a while to get the JamManager updated to the latest version of MacOS, but those are the only complaints I've heard.


              • conky
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                ChuckDawg wrote:
                DigiTechRep or Conky, I remember reading about people having issues using the software for the JamMan and solo XT's software. What are the issues? in other words what are the problems that the people are speaking of and is there a way to get around them? Also, do you just download the software from digitech's home website?

                Yeah, just go to the digitech website and download it from there. I downloaded the software with no problems but I haven't used it yet other than opening it up and making sure it downloaded and installed properly. I put all of my samples on there just by running the headphone out into the aux input on the side of the pedal. Easy as pie.

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                Also a huge +1 on whatr Faldoe said above me. I find the drum tracks completely useless but having the ability to be able to do that would open that part of the pedal up to tons of creative uses other than to simply be a bedroom jam tool.


            • #10
              Thanks for getting back to me so quickly! I really appreciate all your help. I'll be picking 1 up soon this week!

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              • Faldoe
                Faldoe commented
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                @digirep

                I mean if the rhythm tracks on the jamman were able to be replaced. That way you'd have volume control for both the loop level and the rhythm.

            • #11
              So if I add WAV. files of drum tracts into the JamMan does that man I WON'T have volume control over both the drum tracts I download AND my guitar loops I record over them, Faldoe?

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              • #12
                DigiTechRep, or anyone else here know if I can have separate volume controls over my WAV. downloaded drum tracts and my loops I'll be laying down on top of them? I know I keep saying it but I really appreciate everyone's help. This is the finishing touch on a 4+ year project and I want to get it right!

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                • #13
                  I appreciate the help and thanks for going out of your way to check it out for me!!!

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                  • Faldoe
                    Faldoe commented
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                    If the XT is the same as all other Jammans - the drum/rhythm tracks aren't editable, they are built in and you're limited to whatever Digitech included. You have control over the rhythm's volume, but its of a limited number of drum patterns. 

                    The Loop slots can have drum tracks loaded into them but if you record guitar with it, you only can control the volume of that loop slot - that has both drums and guitar.

                    My point/suggestions for Digitech is that they make the Rhythms for the Jamman also editable, that way you can load some electronic drum patterns which can be mixed with any of the loop slots. You'd have volume control for the Loop slot - guitar/bass/synth/ whatever, and also have volume control over the selected rhythm track - electronic drums, glitch beats, etc. 

                    I just find all the stock Jamman Rhythms useless. Might be good if you're like the guy in the video below... looping blues type progressions and making exaderated faces while practicing your solos. 

                    I think more user/owner manipulation would open up the possiblities for musicians that aren't of the kind as in the video.

                     


                • #14
                  I was also looking at the JM4 Looper by Line 6 BUT it has very limited time for recording (I believe its only 16 mins. total). It has a ton of drum tracts and bass tracts but everything else on it (such as added effects and amp modelings) are useless for my needs. I just want the best SMALL loop pedal I can find so I can put it right on my pedalboard. Its too bad ths a company hasn't done what you've said, Faldoe!!! That's what I was looking for. I did find a good used JamMan in mint condition for $90 online. Should I grab it?!?

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                  • DigiTechRep
                    DigiTechRep commented
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                    You could link two SoloXT's together and have one to play drum loops and the other to loop guitar, separate volumes for each.  That is a big advantage of JamSync.


                • #15
                  Is that possible with upgrading to a JamMan Stereo instead of the Solo XT?

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                  • DigiTechRep
                    DigiTechRep commented
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                    The JamMan SoloXT is the only JamMan with JamSync at the moment.  So it is the only one that can linked together.



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