Members Dr.Picklebottom Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 i was considering trading the ole hot rod deluxe for something id occasionally use. theres a couple windsors available locally for relatively cheap. from what ive heard sort of a jcm800 type of amp? i plan on going to check one out tomorrow but was wondering what people think of it, any issues, etc. i generally use a decent amount of gain but dont like using metal tones. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pioneerprogress Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 i was considering trading the ole hot rod deluxe for something id occasionally use. theres a couple windsors available locally for relatively cheap. from what ive heard sort of a jcm800 type of amp? i plan on going to check one out tomorrow but was wondering what people think of it, any issues, etc. i generally use a decent amount of gain but dont like using metal tones. thanks. they're kinda like a jcm800 in that it's a single channel rock amp, but it's not a clone or anything.If you like Peavey amps, you'd probably like the Windsor. Nothing mind-blowing though.Personally, I use it as a base for my pedalboard. Crank the MV, use gain knob to adjust volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr.Picklebottom Posted September 24, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 they're kinda like a jcm800 in that it's a single channel rock amp, but it's not a clone or anything. If you like Peavey amps, you'd probably like the Windsor. Nothing mind-blowing though. Personally, I use it as a base for my pedalboard. Crank the MV, use gain knob to adjust volume. cool, thanks for the info.i was pedalboard retarded for a long time and still have some nice dirt pedals but these days im really trying to stay away from pedal gain. id be using this for its own gain, probably boosted if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pioneerprogress Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 cool, thanks for the info. i was pedalboard retarded for a long time and still have some nice dirt pedals but these days im really trying to stay away from pedal gain. id be using this for its own gain, probably boosted if necessary. It'll do the job, I would definitely recommend trying it if possibly before buying. This amp really seems to send folks in either the like or extreme dislike direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr.Picklebottom Posted September 24, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 yup, theres a couple for sale locally. i plan on trying one tomorrow. just trying to get some info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ConcreteVamphyr Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 I'll throw in the usual.... at this price range laney pro tube, or aor. Or peavey vtm. More betterer amps.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MetalHed Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 i was considering trading the ole hot rod deluxe for something id occasionally use. It's a decent amp, but I'd think your Hot Rod Deluxe is worth more, so if you're gonna swap, at least ask for some cash in addition to the Windsor. I agree that you should play one first, they aren't for everyone. They have a decent AMOUNT of gain, but the gain structure leaves something to be desired in my opinion. I've found that they are fine for just banging on power chords, but if you have really good chops the amp will have a hard time articulating really fast, technical runs. That's been my experience with my Windsor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 From what I gather they're a good platform for modding if you're that way inclined. Main beef I've heard is that the cathodyne phase inverter isnt all that well designed which leads to all sorts of ugly when its overdriven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members "sasquatch" Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 I'll throw in the usual....at this price range laney pro tube, or aor. Or peavey vtm.More betterer amps.... peavey VTM craps all over the windsor. +1 a bajillin on the VTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members candyphlyp Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 horrible IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pioneerprogress Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 peavey VTM craps all over the windsor.+1 a bajillin on the VTM I've got to say, between the two, I'd pick the VTM 14 times out of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members "sasquatch" Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 I've got to say, between the two, I'd pick the VTM 14 times out of 10. this sounds pretty accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Holy-diver Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 Basically what everyone is saying about the vtm, x37The vtm seriously sounds as good the jcm 800 for like quarter the price. I have no idea why they are shat upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr.Picklebottom Posted September 24, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 I'll throw in the usual.... at this price range laney pro tube, or aor. Or peavey vtm. More betterer amps.... for $200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr.Picklebottom Posted September 24, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 alright, glad i asked. ill keep looking around and see what else is available (im still going to go see what it sounds like, though).thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pioneerprogress Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 for $200? if you're lucky you can get the vtm for 200.I got mine for $220.You should have no trouble finding one for 300 or less though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nate-Peavey Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 I gotta agree.... If someone came to me and said "I want a newer head, that really only does ONE sound, and that ONE sound is kind of an AC/DC thing, and that is the ONLY thing I really want." I might then point him to the Windsor. Not one of my all time favs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boogieplaya Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 200 is too much for a used windsor. I see them for less than 200 all the time.The one i had at home for a couple days sounded "similar" to my single channel 800's. Just less ballsy and a bit less articulate. If you jack them up with a tubescreamer in front they are very good sounding rock amps.Build quality is NOTHING like an old 800, though that is to be expected for a cheap import amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pioneerprogress Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 200 is too much for a used windsor. I see them for less than 200 all the time.The one i had at home for a couple days sounded "similar" to my single channel 800's. Just less ballsy and a bit less articulate. If you jack them up with a tubescreamer in front they are very good sounding rock amps.Build quality is NOTHING like an old 800, though that is to be expected for a cheap import amp. realistically you're not going to find one for much cheaper than 200.They may have gotten blown out at Guitar Center for that price new, but it seems to be holding at that amount in the used market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr Roboto Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 I wouldn't pay $50 for a Windsor. It's just not worth it. You'd need to have around $600 worth of mods done to make it sound decent, and that defeats the purpose of buying a cheap amp. I agree with everyone about the VTM. See if you can find one of those or a Butcher, and then have me build you a new headshell for it, so that it looks as good as it sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Matt Howell Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 I wouldn't pay $50 for a Windsor. It's just not worth it. You'd need to have around $600 worth of mods done to make it sound decent, and that defeats the purpose of buying a cheap amp. I agree with everyone about the VTM. See if you can find one of those or a Butcher, and then have me build you a new headshell for it, so that it looks as good as it sounds. I did about 200.00 worth on mine, and it OWNS. NOT FOR SALE. 400.00 total for a world class amp, series parallel loop switchable loop, and cleans up very well with just the volume knob on my guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Edge11 Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 From what I gather they're a good platform for modding if you're that way inclined. Main beef I've heard is that the cathodyne phase inverter isnt all that well designed which leads to all sorts of ugly when its overdriven. This and it's not to hard to turn PI into LTP. As of right now I'm in the planning phases of what I'm going to do to it mod wise. I think I'm going to add an extra tube and use halve of it for a 4gs overdrive channel and 1/2 for a fenderish clean channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Edge11 Posted September 24, 2010 Members Share Posted September 24, 2010 I did about 200.00 worth on mine, and it OWNS. NOT FOR SALE. 400.00 total for a world class amp, series parallel loop switchable loop, and cleans up very well with just the volume knob on my guitar. clips? Also can you share the power amp mods you did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr Roboto Posted September 25, 2010 Members Share Posted September 25, 2010 I did about 200.00 worth on mine, and it OWNS. NOT FOR SALE. 400.00 total for a world class amp, series parallel loop switchable loop, and cleans up very well with just the volume knob on my guitar. I'd be interested to hear some clips. I was going to mod my own, but the guts looked pretty cheap, and the trannies were very small too. I reasoned that I might do a bunch of work to it, and end up with a marginally better sounding amp, but still made from cheap parts. I'm much happier with my Rhino. Paid even less for it than I did for the Windsor, and it sounds killer without any mods whatsoever. Not to mention, it's a 2 channel amp with separate EQs for both channels. The Rhino is also LUDICROUSLY LOUD. It's probably as loud as my old Randall RGT100, but is also switchable between 50 and 100 watts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Matt Howell Posted September 25, 2010 Members Share Posted September 25, 2010 I changed the output Transformer to a MM, and added a MM choke. Upgraded the Electrolytics and tone caps, added Carbon comps to the tone section. Changed several of the pots, and did some mods to the output section to accomodate KT-88s. Modded the effects loops with a series or Parallel loop switch, and upgraded components. I also use 4% WGT Silver solder on every contact, some think it makes a difference, some dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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