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  • Thinking about building a Fender Princeton

    I've been home with the flu and reading up on building blackface and brown Fenders. I've been seriously considering building a blackface Princeton Reverb or brown Princeton. I would like to put better than spec transformers in it so it can run 6L6s. I'd like to put an FX loop in it. I like the London Power tube-buffered loop and the Metro loop. I think I'd rather it be a head than a combo. Where can I find plans and parts lists? Which components should I be using? I don't know the difference between, sprague, orange-drop, etc.

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    ib4 Allen Amps
    The community here was awesome but the digs & spirit of the place has been in decline ever since it became a business venture rather than a simple collective and this latest gong show really brought the chickens home to roost.Necessity is the mother of invention, ergo: www.guitarampboard.com.So long and thanks for all the fish, love izzy.

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      ib4 Allen Amps
      The community here was awesome but the digs & spirit of the place has been in decline ever since it became a business venture rather than a simple collective and this latest gong show really brought the chickens home to roost.Necessity is the mother of invention, ergo: www.guitarampboard.com.So long and thanks for all the fish, love izzy.

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      • #4
        Build the 6G2 brown over the blackface anyday.



        A loop seems like a silly thing to put into an amp like that. It only has two gain stages.

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        • #5
          Build the 6G2 brown over the blackface anyday.



          A loop seems like a silly thing to put into an amp like that. It only has two gain stages.

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          • #6






            Quote Originally Posted by Kap'n
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            Build the 6G2 brown over the blackface anyday.



            A loop seems like a silly thing to put into an amp like that. It only has two gain stages.




            Why do you say the 6G2? I know it only has 2 gain stages, but my thinking was to add reverb with my rocktron in the loop. Plus I use distortion pedals a good amount, not fuzz or boost, but distortion.

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              Quote Originally Posted by Kap'n
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              Build the 6G2 brown over the blackface anyday.



              A loop seems like a silly thing to put into an amp like that. It only has two gain stages.




              Why do you say the 6G2? I know it only has 2 gain stages, but my thinking was to add reverb with my rocktron in the loop. Plus I use distortion pedals a good amount, not fuzz or boost, but distortion.

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              • #8
                The tone stack in the AA964 loses a lot of gain, and just sounds wimpy. There's a reason original examples are relatively inexpensive.

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                • #9
                  The tone stack in the AA964 loses a lot of gain, and just sounds wimpy. There's a reason original examples are relatively inexpensive.

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                    Quote Originally Posted by TheRymanChu
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                    I've been home with the flu and reading up on building blackface and brown Fenders. I've been seriously considering building a blackface Princeton Reverb or brown Princeton. I would like to put better than spec transformers in it so it can run 6L6s. I'd like to put an FX loop in it. I like the London Power tube-buffered loop and the Metro loop. I think I'd rather it be a head than a combo. Where can I find plans and parts lists? Which components should I be using? I don't know the difference between, sprague, orange-drop, etc.




                    Why not just buy a SF Bandmaster or Bassman?









                    Quote Originally Posted by Kap'n
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                    The tone stack in the AA964 loses a lot of gain, and just sounds wimpy.




                    That's plain silly.
                    Grease Monkey... SLO... M90... Dual Rect... Others...

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                      Quote Originally Posted by TheRymanChu
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                      I've been home with the flu and reading up on building blackface and brown Fenders. I've been seriously considering building a blackface Princeton Reverb or brown Princeton. I would like to put better than spec transformers in it so it can run 6L6s. I'd like to put an FX loop in it. I like the London Power tube-buffered loop and the Metro loop. I think I'd rather it be a head than a combo. Where can I find plans and parts lists? Which components should I be using? I don't know the difference between, sprague, orange-drop, etc.




                      Why not just buy a SF Bandmaster or Bassman?









                      Quote Originally Posted by Kap'n
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                      The tone stack in the AA964 loses a lot of gain, and just sounds wimpy.




                      That's plain silly.
                      Grease Monkey... SLO... M90... Dual Rect... Others...

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                      • #12






                        Quote Originally Posted by sled
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                        That's plain silly.




                        No. See the second half of my note. The non-reverb BF/SF Princeton is probably the least valuable of the classic Fender push-pull combos, with perhaps the exception of the MusicMaster Bass, while the reverb version has skyrocketed in the past few years. My guess is that a LOT of other people share my view.

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                        • #13






                          Quote Originally Posted by sled
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                          That's plain silly.




                          No. See the second half of my note. The non-reverb BF/SF Princeton is probably the least valuable of the classic Fender push-pull combos, with perhaps the exception of the MusicMaster Bass, while the reverb version has skyrocketed in the past few years. My guess is that a LOT of other people share my view.

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                          • #14
                            To be clear, as I said in the OP, I'm debating between the AA1164 bf princeton reverb and the 6G2 brown princeton. I'd also consider an AA763 build, but the tremolo is better on the princetons. I'm not interested in a bassman, bandmaster or bf princeton.

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                            • #15
                              To be clear, as I said in the OP, I'm debating between the AA1164 bf princeton reverb and the 6G2 brown princeton. I'd also consider an AA763 build, but the tremolo is better on the princetons. I'm not interested in a bassman, bandmaster or bf princeton.

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