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  • Getting good nasty grindcore tone

    I am currently recording a demo and I a using the following stuff:



    - Logic 9

    - LePou LeGion (all setting at noon, except for gain)

    - LeCab with God's Cab Impulses



    I am getting good tone with these, but frankly, it all sounds a little... tame and clean. I am not looking for that ultra modern sound, but am looking for more dirt and grind, just rip your face off nasty (yet still efined as it has still got a lot of melodic playing). I have no idea how to achieve this. I do not have any pedals, apart from some VST's.



    Anyone got any ideas?
    <blockquote><p>If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face...forever</p></blockquote>

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    So, using a real amp is out of the equation? Honestly, something like a Peavey Bandit ss practice amp with the gain maxed would get you on the ballpark.. The old bands prolly did use distortion pedals into gained out amps. Which at the time weren't that high gain.. So maybe use the jcm 800 or better yet 900 emulation and hit it with different dirt boxes.. Basically you need the low end to be more undefined and distorted to get that old late 80's grind tine
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    • #3
      So, using a real amp is out of the equation? Honestly, something like a Peavey Bandit ss practice amp with the gain maxed would get you on the ballpark.. The old bands prolly did use distortion pedals into gained out amps. Which at the time weren't that high gain.. So maybe use the jcm 800 or better yet 900 emulation and hit it with different dirt boxes.. Basically you need the low end to be more undefined and distorted to get that old late 80's grind tine
      <div class="signaturecontainer"><font face="Arial Black">SPAM</font><br />
      <font size="2"><font face="Palatino Linotype"><br />
      <br />
      <br />
      <br />
      -Dimarzio Paf 7-$45 or trade for a Duncan custom 7<br />
      <br />
      -Mick Thomson Blackouts set- $110 or $100 for just pickups, no pots/harnesses<br />
      <br />
      emg 81 or 85. $50. I'm keeping one, so whichever one sells first..<br />
      <br />
      -Ibanez Ts9- like new $60<br />
      <br />
      -Modded ProCo Rat (pm for info) $70<br />
      <br />
      pm for pics<br />
      </font></font><br />
      <br />
      Good transactions with- too many.</div>

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      • #4
        Lay a dirty bass track underneath.



        Would this be considered dirty enough? https://soundcloud.com/hottkarl/untitled-grind
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        • #5
          Lay a dirty bass track underneath.



          Would this be considered dirty enough? https://soundcloud.com/hottkarl/untitled-grind
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          <img src="images/misc/quote_icon.png" alt="Quote" /> Originally Posted by <strong>Rear Naked</strong>
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          • #6






            Quote Originally Posted by HottKarl
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            Lay a dirty bass track underneath.



            Would this be considered dirty enough? https://soundcloud.com/hottkarl/untitled-grind




            I hadn't considered the basstrack yet



            thanks!
            <blockquote><p>If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face...forever</p></blockquote>

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            • #7






              Quote Originally Posted by HottKarl
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              Lay a dirty bass track underneath.



              Would this be considered dirty enough? https://soundcloud.com/hottkarl/untitled-grind




              I hadn't considered the basstrack yet



              thanks!
              <blockquote><p>If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face...forever</p></blockquote>

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              • #8
                Use this, on everything:

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                • #9
                  Use this, on everything:

                  <div class="signaturecontainer"><div align="right"><a href="http://www.billowsdoom.bandcamp.com" target="_blank">There is no order in the world, save what death has put there.</a><br />
                  <br />
                  <a href="http://www.facebook.com/billowsdoom" target="_blank">Billows</a><br />
                  <font face="Courier New">Fender::Matamp::Acoustic</font></div></div>

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                  • #10






                    Quote Originally Posted by .homewrecker.
                    View Post

                    Use this, on everything:





                    this![/thread]
                    <div class="signaturecontainer">Gibson LP Custom, Std, Studio, Jr (x2), SG Std (x2)<br />
                    PRS Cu24, Cu22<br />
                    Fender US Strat &amp; Tele, Baja Tele, Hw1 P-Bass<br />
                    Ibanez RG548, RG550, EX170<br />
                    Epiphone LP Custom BB<br />
                    Antoria Custom Agent<br />
                    ----------<br />
                    Mesa Roadking, Recto Trd &quot;A&quot; cab, Recto Std &quot;S&quot; cab (x2), P.H. 8x10<br />
                    Marshall JCM800 2204 (x2), TSL, 1960A <br />
                    Ampeg V-4 <br />
                    Jet City JCA20H<br />
                    Orange PPC112<br />
                    Laney B1, LC15 <br />
                    -------------------------<br />
                    <a href="http://www.reverbnation.com/lastunderthesun" target="_blank">www.reverbnation.com/lastunderthesun</a><br />
                    <a href="http://www.reverbnation.com/policebastard" target="_blank">www.reverbnation.com/policebastard</a><br />
                    <a href="http://www.myspace.com/thejiltedgeneration" target="_blank">www.myspace.com/thejiltedgeneration</a></div>

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                    • #11






                      Quote Originally Posted by .homewrecker.
                      View Post

                      Use this, on everything:





                      this![/thread]
                      <div class="signaturecontainer">Gibson LP Custom, Std, Studio, Jr (x2), SG Std (x2)<br />
                      PRS Cu24, Cu22<br />
                      Fender US Strat &amp; Tele, Baja Tele, Hw1 P-Bass<br />
                      Ibanez RG548, RG550, EX170<br />
                      Epiphone LP Custom BB<br />
                      Antoria Custom Agent<br />
                      ----------<br />
                      Mesa Roadking, Recto Trd &quot;A&quot; cab, Recto Std &quot;S&quot; cab (x2), P.H. 8x10<br />
                      Marshall JCM800 2204 (x2), TSL, 1960A <br />
                      Ampeg V-4 <br />
                      Jet City JCA20H<br />
                      Orange PPC112<br />
                      Laney B1, LC15 <br />
                      -------------------------<br />
                      <a href="http://www.reverbnation.com/lastunderthesun" target="_blank">www.reverbnation.com/lastunderthesun</a><br />
                      <a href="http://www.reverbnation.com/policebastard" target="_blank">www.reverbnation.com/policebastard</a><br />
                      <a href="http://www.myspace.com/thejiltedgeneration" target="_blank">www.myspace.com/thejiltedgeneration</a></div>

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                      • #12






                        Quote Originally Posted by .homewrecker.
                        View Post

                        Use this, on everything:





                        Unfortunately, I don't have one and they are hard to come by these days. Is there a way to emulate this (VST or EQ settings?)
                        <blockquote><p>If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face...forever</p></blockquote>

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                        • #13






                          Quote Originally Posted by .homewrecker.
                          View Post

                          Use this, on everything:





                          Unfortunately, I don't have one and they are hard to come by these days. Is there a way to emulate this (VST or EQ settings?)
                          <blockquote><p>If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face...forever</p></blockquote>

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                          • #14






                            Quote Originally Posted by wok
                            View Post

                            Unfortunately, I don't have one and they are hard to come by these days. Is there a way to emulate this (VST or EQ settings?)




                            Not sure but I've been wanting one, instant Entombed.
                            <div class="signaturecontainer"><div align="right"><a href="http://www.billowsdoom.bandcamp.com" target="_blank">There is no order in the world, save what death has put there.</a><br />
                            <br />
                            <a href="http://www.facebook.com/billowsdoom" target="_blank">Billows</a><br />
                            <font face="Courier New">Fender::Matamp::Acoustic</font></div></div>

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                            • #15






                              Quote Originally Posted by wok
                              View Post

                              Unfortunately, I don't have one and they are hard to come by these days. Is there a way to emulate this (VST or EQ settings?)




                              Not sure but I've been wanting one, instant Entombed.
                              <div class="signaturecontainer"><div align="right"><a href="http://www.billowsdoom.bandcamp.com" target="_blank">There is no order in the world, save what death has put there.</a><br />
                              <br />
                              <a href="http://www.facebook.com/billowsdoom" target="_blank">Billows</a><br />
                              <font face="Courier New">Fender::Matamp::Acoustic</font></div></div>

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