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  • #16
    I would rather have 4 718 over 2 728's. Just so much easier to move around and loading and unloading.
    I have wrestled with the idea of the KV2 sub, but I just dont want to have to lift a 100+ pound box.

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    • #17
      I had 4 718's and now I have 2 EX2.2s.
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      • #18
        the KV2 does not go near as low at the JBL. Now I do not know if that matters for you but if playing modern dance music through it, the JBL will sound better as much of that content hits in the 30's. The KV2 goes down to 45.

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        • #19
          the KV2 does not go near as low at the JBL. Now I do not know if that matters for you but if playing modern dance music through it, the JBL will sound better as much of that content hits in the 30's. The KV2 goes down to 45.


          Have you actually listened to both of them?
          The specs are a little different in the website:

          http://www.kv2audio.com/product.asp?ProdID=EX2.5&ProdSeries=EX
          YMMV.

          Release your inner DJ... then you will begin to see.

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          • #20
            I was asking about the the EX2.5's, not the 2.2's. Sorry for the confusion.

            Also, a side question about powering the SRX728's. If you are powering them in parallel(4ohm), would give 2000watts per box, or how would you do it?

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            • #21
              oh the 2.5 looks to be on par with the 728.

              now the 2.2 NOT a chance.

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              • #22
                oh the 2.5 looks to be on par with the 728.

                now the 2.2 NOT a chance.


                And that would be by specs only, I suppose?

                You know, I'm a bass player. Ampeg makes a bass amp called SVT4-Pro that's 1200W@4ohm, GK happens to make another head that's called 800RB, 300W@4ohm. The 800RB is louder any day of the week... Strange huh?
                YMMV.

                Release your inner DJ... then you will begin to see.

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                • #23
                  And that would be by specs only, I suppose?

                  You know, I'm a bass player. Ampeg makes a bass amp called SVT4-Pro that's 1200W@4ohm, GK happens to make another head that's called 800RB, 300W@4ohm. The 800RB is louder any day of the week... Strange huh?


                  I have heard both the 2.5 and the 728. They are both great sounding boxes. I would say the 728 is maybe more extended and accurate. The 2.5 has serious "wow" factor in terms of output versus size. I can't honestly say which hits harder, as I haven't heard them back to back in similar conditions, but I will say I consider them to be in the same class.

                  Honestly, performance would not be a holdup for me with either system. Bigger considerations would be a user's needs in terms of packaging, coverage, dealer setup and support, cost of ownership, and suitability/marketability for your local market.
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                  • #24
                    ya and the 2.2 has no chance.

                    It is very hard for a small box to go low. I have heard the JBL many times and it does pound and get darn low. I can go demo a 2.2 at any time and I just might do that as I know a guy locally who has it but even he says it does not pound like a nice 18" as he used to have a LS808.

                    I do not even think this is fair to compare 2.5 to a dual 18. What is fair is the 718 (single 18) compared to the 2.2

                    I would bet the 2.5 is close to the 728 though!

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                    • #25
                      It is very hard for a small box to go low. I have heard the JBL many times and it does pound and get darn low. I can go demo a 2.2 at any time and I just might do that as I know a guy locally who has it but even he says it does not pound like a nice 18" as he used to have a LS808.


                      I might be wrong, but I don't usually compare music gear by "how does it pound" or "how low it goes". I'd rather ask "how good does it sound?" or "how musical is it?", "how appropriate is it for what I do?". Some subs out there pound so hard and go so low that the bass sounds like one note, you don't really distinguish what the guy is playing. This sub will obviously have impressive specs but is it going to complement the band's performance or be a star on it's own?

                      I haven't heard the EX2.2 and I'm not trying to say that it's better than any other sub out there, but from what I read KV2 speakers have that studio quality that some of us crave in live speakers. It's the characteristic sound of those legendary systems, like Meyer or Clair that seem to belong in another sphere of audio pleasure. I've heard top dollar speakers and even in low SPL there's something about them that's worth the extra dollar, and it's not the ability to pound or go low, but the velvet quality of some frequencies, how they are able to transmit the emotion from the artist to the crowd. Sometimes we forget that audio is also an art!
                      YMMV.

                      Release your inner DJ... then you will begin to see.

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                      • #26
                        I will say that in my opinion, I think the KV2 2.2s just kick the crap out of the SRX718s we were using. For our purposes (pop-rock cover band power trio), ONE 2.2 replaces two SRX718s. Your mileage may vary.

                        I never felt that really good chest thump with the 718s - the KV2 just slams - we have to turn it down sometimes because it's so efficient - it could easily overpower our tops.

                        Brian V.
                        "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell

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                        • #27
                          I might be wrong, but I don't usually compare music gear by "how does it pound" or "how low it goes". I'd rather ask "how good does it sound?" or "how musical is it?", "how appropriate is it for what I do?". Some subs out there pound so hard and go so low that the bass sounds like one note, you don't really distinguish what the guy is playing. This sub will obviously have impressive specs but is it going to complement the band's performance or be a star on it's own?

                          I haven't heard the EX2.2 and I'm not trying to say that it's better than any other sub out there, but from what I read KV2 speakers have that studio quality that some of us crave in live speakers. It's the characteristic sound of those legendary systems, like Meyer or Clair that seem to belong in another sphere of audio pleasure. I've heard top dollar speakers and even in low SPL there's something about them that's worth the extra dollar, and it's not the ability to pound or go low, but the velvet quality of some frequencies, how they are able to transmit the emotion from the artist to the crowd. Sometimes we forget that audio is also an art!



                          Very well put.
                          Thanks,
                          Bill Cronheim
                          Entertainment Systems Corporation
                          Back stage since 1965
                          Equipment specialist since 1973

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                          • #28
                            I might be wrong, but I don't usually compare music gear by "how does it pound" or "how low it goes". I'd rather ask "how good does it sound?" or "how musical is it?", "how appropriate is it for what I do?". Some subs out there pound so hard and go so low that the bass sounds like one note, you don't really distinguish what the guy is playing. This sub will obviously have impressive specs but is it going to complement the band's performance or be a star on it's own?

                            I haven't heard the EX2.2 and I'm not trying to say that it's better than any other sub out there, but from what I read KV2 speakers have that studio quality that some of us crave in live speakers. It's the characteristic sound of those legendary systems, like Meyer or Clair that seem to belong in another sphere of audio pleasure. I've heard top dollar speakers and even in low SPL there's something about them that's worth the extra dollar, and it's not the ability to pound or go low, but the velvet quality of some frequencies, how they are able to transmit the emotion from the artist to the crowd. Sometimes we forget that audio is also an art!




                            Especially the part about (some) subwoofer's just masking all definition in the bass.

                            I'd rather use no sub at all than have that big dumb THUD that some people seem to crave - not for my band, thanks.
                            Kickin' it in the sticks...

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                            • #29
                              the JBL is no dumb thud. It is used all over the world and it sounds terrific. I do not even know what to say if you are not getting the hit in the chest feeling. Maybe becaause I am using it for playback (DJ) purposes but the extended low freq sounds nice for hip hop and modern dance music where I would be missing it on a 2.2, now the 2.5.. that looks like a winner!

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                              • #30
                                the JBL is no dumb thud. It is used all over the world and it sounds terrific. I do not even know what to say if you are not getting the hit in the chest feeling. Maybe becaause I am using it for playback (DJ) purposes but the extended low freq sounds nice for hip hop and modern dance music where I would be missing it on a 2.2, now the 2.5.. that looks like a winner!


                                Looks like and sounds/feels like are two different things, I think.

                                I'd be seriously shocked if you found the 2.2 lacking in the low frequencies...honestly.

                                Have you heard one? Be honest.

                                Sure, I bet the 2.5 would knock light fixtures down, but the 2.2 is no slouch, and we've never found it lacking even when we play the between-sets dance music (which is often current pop music, which loves the extended lows of hip-hop and club kick drums).

                                It's very rare when a piece of PA gear just blows me away, and the SRX718 subs never even came close to that - I always felt like we were fighting with them to get output, even with the iTech6000, unless we used four of them (then it was pretty nice, though the chest thump was hard to come by - it would only happen when they were CRANKED). From the moment we fired up the KV2 2.2s, I was floored. Lots of thump, but also lots of clarity and definition in the low frequencies that seemed to be lacking with the sort of flubby-by-comparison SRX718s. It could be operator error, or maybe something was wrong with the 718s or something, I don't know, but it was such a drastic difference it made the JBLs seem like Nadys in comparison.

                                As others have said, the KV2s are just really musical.
                                Brian V.
                                "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell

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