Members hammondman Posted July 6, 2014 Members Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hi, I'm currently own the following mics for live vocals :- JZ HH1Audix OM3EV n/d767a x2Sennheiser E838 (E840) x2AKG D5 x3 For the gigs I'm doing I only really need 4 decent quality live vocal mics so 9 is a bit of an overkill. As a result, I'm wondering about getting 4 higher quality live mics?Of all the mics that I own, I have been impressed with the tone of the JZ HH1. I find this mic to be extremely clear compared to my other mics though it can sound a touch sibilant on some voices. Also, the handling noise is pretty high. Ideally I'd like something with similar clarity but with better handling noise and maybe higher output. I'm considering the following mics :- Sennheiser E945Sennheiser E935Audix OM7Heil PR22UTEV N/D967a What would you recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OneEng Posted July 6, 2014 Members Share Posted July 6, 2014 What are you doing with your current microphones ..... and what do you like and dislike about each of the microphones you already own. IMHO, your microphones are pretty decent already although there are strengths and weaknesses to each in different situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hammondman Posted July 6, 2014 Author Members Share Posted July 6, 2014 It's not that I particularly dislike my current mics it's because I recently heard them next to a Sennheiser E945 with two extremely experienced live engineers (Glastonbury etc) and we were all found it to sound far clearer without the sibilance of the JZ HH1. I've heard great things about the Audix OM7, Heil PR22 and EV n/d967a as well but haven't heard any of these in person. I am looking for 3-4 really good general/versatile live vocal mics with great clarity without sounding harsh or muddy. I will be using these on a variety of male and female vocalists cover a wide range of jazz, soul, gospel, rock and soft acoustic styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dedmeet Posted July 6, 2014 Members Share Posted July 6, 2014 I can vouch for the e935 and e945 - both are superb mics. I personally tend to sing through the e935 and the singer in the Big Band I play bass for favors the e945. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pro Sound Guy Posted July 6, 2014 Members Share Posted July 6, 2014 A microphone is application dependent. If it is a 2000.00 mic and the wrong mic for the application then a 2k mic means nothing. The OM7 is a mic you have to be "RIGHT ON IT" and that is what it is designed for. If you pull away from it then gain quickly drops off. Get a mic that is rider friendly and can be used for more then one application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dogoth Posted July 6, 2014 Members Share Posted July 6, 2014 You are correct that the e945 is a great mic but is it great for everyone? I'd agree with Pro Sound Guy that you really DO want several different mics to choose from. Also the OM7 is killer for high volume feedback rejection but I wouldn't call it clear & pristine (really when you're right on it they get pretty muddy due to the tight pattern - that's your trade off). One mic not mentioned was the Telefunken M80. They are a clear, clean dynamic with a decent rejection pattern (think of a Beta 58 with a high pass built in :-). I also like Shure Beta 57's for vocals (with a windscreen). These are both built to last dynamics with a good track record. I'm not proposing any particular mics here as (has been stated) no one mic fits all. my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hammondman Posted July 7, 2014 Author Members Share Posted July 7, 2014 Thanks. Yes I forgot that about the OM7. The Telefunken M80 costs £210 in the UK so is a little out of my budget. I'm not sure I'd want the mic to sound as though it has a high pass built in as some thin vocals need a little help in the lower frequencies. My desk has a sweepable high pass and I would prefer to have control as to where this is set instead of it being preset within the mics voicing. I have to say that the E945 looks like a good option. Also, there is a pretty good deal going on them at the moment at £126 each. Still keen to hear the Heil PR22 aswell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Audixmicguy Posted July 7, 2014 Members Share Posted July 7, 2014 The OM7 is a great mic but as Pro Sound Guy says you have to be right on it or have a large format console with great pre-amps. If you want something more versatile with great high transients have a listen to an OM6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hammondman Posted July 7, 2014 Author Members Share Posted July 7, 2014 Thanks. Yes I've ruled out the OM7 for the moment. I've heard the OM6 and E935 on a vocalist and we all preferred the E935. However, that could change on a different vocalist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Audixmicguy Posted July 7, 2014 Members Share Posted July 7, 2014 It depends as much on the PA and the room as much as the singer. Slight differences in gain can yield huge differences to the ear. Have a listen to any mic you're considering for proximity (too much will make it boomy and hard to make out the words in the FOH) and off axis rejection (better off-axis rejection makes it easier to hear the mic in the monitors) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Koopdaddy Posted July 9, 2014 Members Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hi, I'm currently own the following mics for live vocals :- JZ HH1 Audix OM3 EV n/d767a x2 Sennheiser E838 (E840) x2 AKG D5 x3 For the gigs I'm doing I only really need 4 decent quality live vocal mics so 9 is a bit of an overkill. As a result, I'm wondering about getting 4 higher quality live mics? Of all the mics that I own, I have been impressed with the tone of the JZ HH1. I find this mic to be extremely clear compared to my other mics though it can sound a touch sibilant on some voices. Also, the handling noise is pretty high. Ideally I'd like something with similar clarity but with better handling noise and maybe higher output. I'm considering the following mics :- Sennheiser E945 Sennheiser E935 Audix OM7 Heil PR22UT EV N/D967a What would you recommend? I have the E935 and E945, and PR22UT. The PR22UT is a utility mic and I would only use on vocals in a pinch. It is a great instrument mic for a variety of tasks, but in my opinion the handling noise on it is a bit high to be used as a vocal. You could use it, but it wouldn't be my first choice for vocals. The Sennheiser options are both quality options. I have been told that the EV is great for louder stages due to its off axis rejection, but I have not verified that myself. As mentioned, having a wide variety in your mic locker allows more flexibility in using the best mic for the given task. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bugzie Posted July 9, 2014 Members Share Posted July 9, 2014 My go to mic has been the Heil PR 35 for a while. I've used it for a kick drum mic in a pinch and it poerformed very well. Dynamic with a very high output. Decent rejection. They run about $235 american , So I;m not sure if it's in your price range. Both the 935 and 945 are a decent choice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hammondman Posted July 9, 2014 Author Members Share Posted July 9, 2014 Think I'm gonna pick up a couple of E945's and 935's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dedmeet Posted July 9, 2014 Members Share Posted July 9, 2014 Think I'm gonna pick up a couple of E945's and 935's. I hope you find these as useful and good sounding as I have. My experiences with the e835, e845, e935, and e945 have been uniformly positive. Report back to us sometime your results and opinions, if you would, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hammondman Posted July 10, 2014 Author Members Share Posted July 10, 2014 Yes will report back once I've tried them. I find the E838 to be a very good mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomm Williams Posted July 11, 2014 Members Share Posted July 11, 2014 Since it appears you live in Europe, I would also suggest looking at the Beyer M400tg or M69. I'm assuming they fit your budget in your country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hammondman Posted September 29, 2014 Author Members Share Posted September 29, 2014 Thought I'd post a quick update. I've picked up a secondhand Beyer M69 and SE Electronics condenser. I'm hoping to try these out towards the end of the week. I'll be trying these mics out alongside :- Beyer M69JZ Microphones HH1SE Electronics H1EV n/d767aAudix OM3Sennheiser E838AKG D5 I'm hoping to borrow the Sennheiser E945, E935 and Shure Beta 58 aswell. I had a chance to try the Heil PR22 and Rode M2. I found the Heil had pretty high handling noise and was way more susceptible to plosives than any other mic I've tried. I found it was too boomy on the male vocalists present. On female vocals the Heil did sound very nice indeed but sadly the popping and handling noise put me off this mic. The Rode M2 was ok but not anything special compared to what I already own. There are a few other mics I'm curious about which are :- EV n/d767Lewitt MTP840AKG D7 Has anyone had any experience with these compared to any of the other mics listed? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted September 29, 2014 Members Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm sure glad I don't have to worry about this in such detail, I just grab what is a good choice for the application and go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hammondman Posted September 30, 2014 Author Members Share Posted September 30, 2014 ?? I'm not worried?? Yes I agree it is possible to make most mics work but I'm finding some clearly do a better job and I'm enjoying trying out all these different mics and hearing their strengths and weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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