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  • Quote Originally Posted by Fishnose
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    An absolutely amazing review!! Wow, you really dig into a unit and find the good and bad bits. I am hugely impressed with a number of your reviews I've read.




    Thanks! My philosophy isn't to say "I like it" or "I don't like it" as much as it is to describe something in enough detail that people can decide for themselves whether it would suit their purposes or not.








    A couple of things:

    1. I find it a little disconcerting to contemplate using an interface that gives me so little possiblilty to tweak on the actual box. I'm thinking in terms of a bus mixer as interface in front of a multi-input USB box (I have the Line6 UX8 and am very pleased with it). With the Roland, all that disappears. Ok, it has some knobs, but nothing close to a hardware mixer-type interface.



    That's correct. You need to navigate through screens and use the hardware controls to adjust parameters.








    Do you find that the Octa applet gives you the ease of use, the intuitive 'twiddlyness' of a real mixer & outboard compressor (or at least fairly close)?



    It's really like any virtual mixer, so if you're comfortable with that kind of tweaking, you'll be okay. Remember, though, that the compression is after the A/Ds so you can't use them to trap overs before they get into the Octa-Capture.








    The reason I'm looking at this box is that I'll be out in the field recording soon, and the UX8 is a bit too clumsy to lug along (air transport etc), as well as it doesn't have that kind of neat SW interface. I'll have a bunch of mics, a very powerful Win7 laptop, and a USB box.



    In your case, obviously the number of mic inputs in such a small box would be a major asset. So it comes down to whether you're happy with a virtual mixer to do most of your tweaking. Don't get me wrong, the unit isn't that hard to navigate - if you're only recording one or two channels at a time, it's not a problem. But if you're tweaking eight channels, you'll definitely want to use the virtual mixer.








    2. The Auto-Sens setup seems to be truly amazing! Esp. with the new v1.5, that is SO cool.

    Is Auto-Sens good enough to give the initial setup for an 8-track session, requiring just some realtime tweaking as things progress?



    Yes, as long as people play at the maximum level so the OC can set a ceiling. I use auto-sens all the time, so either it works, or I've gotten really lazy...or both








    Can Auto-Sense be used for only 1 or 2 channels - say you have 6 channels Auto-Sens'd, you're happy with them, (drummer and bassist say) and then you want to add 2 more (vocals and mic'ed guitar amp). Will Auto-Sense leave the first 6 alone?



    Yes, you can enable/disable for whichever channels you want...great question.








    And lastly, do channels 9 & 10 not have Auto possibilities at all?



    No, because they're digital I/O. Any level issues would need to be addressed prior to the signal becoming digitized.








    Incidentally, your UX8 review was perhaps the most important decision-maker for me when I was on the market for a new box about a year ago. And I haven't regretted it! Thanks again.



    Line 6 makes really good gear at the price point where they live. The UX8 was one of the first "lots of inputs for not a lot of bucks that still sound really good" interfaces.
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    • Hi Craig, nice review, i use the octa, with the compresor, and it's seems to give more dynamic range, if you use it as a limiter. I think it improves the 50 db of the preamp. Even going after A/D, The waveform gets bigger without digital clip. I tried the mbox 3 pro but the driver was very unstable on macbook pro with fw 800 and daisychain hd. I exchange it for the octa. Before i used the compresor i thought that the mbox has better preamps. But now trying the compresor I believe that they are very similar.

      What do you think ?

      Maybe you can do some benchmarks with the compresor on.



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      • Quote Originally Posted by Anderton
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        Well for starters, the rear panel outputs are not designed to drive headphones - they're line level, and NOT stereo. You say you can hear the pre-recorded tracks, though...so there must be enough level, which is possible depending on the headphones. However, if you're sending any tracks to the "other" channel, you won't hear them, or they will be very faint. You'll have to create a mono monitor mix.



        I'll check out what happens when I plug headphones into the back, but really, that's not the intended usage for the rear panel jacks.




        Hi M. Anderton,



        firstly, many thanks for the review, as I might buy an OC very soon.

        But I was thinking about the same use as the sir above, I play guitar and sing in a project with a DJ, and I was hoping to use the rear output as a cue. So is it possible to amplify this line signal by any means?



        If it was, this interface would allow us to have distinct monitors on-stage + a cue in the DJ's headphones + inputs for an additional bass player or guitarist, and to keep my acoustic guitar plugged in all the time.

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        • Any one using the Octa-Capture + Pro Tools 10 + Mac OS 10.7..?
          Jim Rosebrook - http://RecordingWorkshop.com

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          • Quote Originally Posted by Asyl
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            Hi M. Anderton,



            firstly, many thanks for the review, as I might buy an OC very soon.

            But I was thinking about the same use as the sir above, I play guitar and sing in a project with a DJ, and I was hoping to use the rear output as a cue. So is it possible to amplify this line signal by any means?



            If it was, this interface would allow us to have distinct monitors on-stage + a cue in the DJ's headphones + inputs for an additional bass player or guitarist, and to keep my acoustic guitar plugged in all the time.




            The Aphex Headpod is really pro quality but might be more than you need. Less expensive models include the ART HeadAmp4 (around $50), and the Behringer HA400 costs about $25.
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            • Quote Originally Posted by jafejo
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              I tried the mbox 3 pro but the driver was very unstable on macbook pro with fw 800 and daisychain hd.




              It's good practice with all FireWire interfaces to give them their own port, and not daisychain with anything. As to the compressor, I should really play with them more...I haven't used them much because I prefer not to record the compressed sound. But maybe a little dynamics control would be useful from time to time.
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              • Quote Originally Posted by Jim Rosebrook
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                Any one using the Octa-Capture + Pro Tools 10 + Mac OS 10.7..?




                Tried it with Pro Tools 10 and Windows (it worked fine), but haven't gone to 10.7 yet on the Mac.
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                • I use 2 units Behringer HA400. One for the drummer during recording, another for the control room. Nice that I can set 4 different mixes

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                  • Quote Originally Posted by Anderton
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                    Tried it with Pro Tools 10 and Windows (it worked fine), but haven't gone to 10.7 yet on the Mac.




                    You might have other reasons to wait on moving to 10.7, but Pro Tools 10 is actually running better for me on 10.7 than on 10.6.



                    I want to trim down my mobile rig to something I can carry my laptop bag, but I hate to give up 8-pre's as I currently have in my ProFire 2626. The Octa looks like the most compact way to go. Looking forward to leaving the rack at home!
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                    • I am considering the Octa-Capture, but am wondering...being that all the 8 inputs are mic pres, will that keep me from using an external stand-alone mic pre without added noise/distortion? Is there a way to activate line level input vs. activate built-in preamp?



                      Also, being that the compressor/limiter is post A/D converters, does this mean that the compressor/limiter will not keep the input level from clipping? I was hoping the comp/limiter would protect from clipping, especially when recording a full drum kit.



                      Thanks for your help!

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                      • Quote Originally Posted by jschuff32
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                        I am considering the Octa-Capture, but am wondering...being that all the 8 inputs are mic pres, will that keep me from using an external stand-alone mic pre without added noise/distortion? Is there a way to activate line level input vs. activate built-in preamp?




                        There's a thorough discussion on this topic in the Cakewalk forums,where I've added some comments of my own.








                        Also, being that the compressor/limiter is post A/D converters, does this mean that the compressor/limiter will not keep the input level from clipping? I was hoping the comp/limiter would protect from clipping, especially when recording a full drum kit.



                        The comp/limiter will not prevent clipping of the A/D converters. But, that's why Auto-Sens is so useful
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                        • Thanks for the info! I read everything on the cakewalk forum and feel a lot better. Which since I already went ahead and ordered it.



                          I'm planning on getting an Art Mpa 2 pre to use for vocals and acoustic guitars. How much of a step up from the octa pre's would the mpa be? Would it be worth it for a little garage project (in your opinion)?

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                          • The most significant differences are the use of tubes as preamps, and the variable input impedance selector. Don't underestimate the OC preamps; they're very good. However, they obviously cannot add that "tube sound" because they don't use tubes. If you want that sound, then yes, you'll need a tube preamp.



                            Personally, I'd say run with the OC preamps for a while and see what you think. You might find you don't really need anything else.
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                            • I think I'm getting close to making the plunge for one of these. So far it seems to meet all of my requirements. Just a simple, kind a stupid question tho.



                              Can this device be powered on and off quickly?



                              Does it make sense to use this for general PC audio, games, itunes, youtube... Ie, would you leave it on all the time?



                              Or would one typically use this kind of interface just for recording/editing and then just use the built in soundcard for general audio? And if so how do you switch sources and still use one set of monitor speakers?



                              Thanks for the great reviews!!



                              Thanks!

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                              • check out steinberg UR824, for around $100-150 extra i think

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