Members synthangel Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 I had a feeling this was a good forum to write about this because I know you guys love synthesizers and will probably understand me. In the video game forums, people always critisize square waves and saw waves ect, just because there not "naturally/realistically smooth." They also hate high frequencies because apparantly they make their ears bleed. How can so many people be so sensitive to high notes that their ears bleed whenever there is a wave over, let's say 1000Hz? I could understand things like scratching a chalkboard hurting your ears, but for instance a trance song that contains a lot of pretty "instraments" that are rich in frequencies does nothing but relaxes and sooths me, but some people just can't stand those kinds of sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 High frequencies+loudness=penetrating sound. Especially with supersaw sounds with resonance, and not much filtered. I also don't like uber-detuned gnarly rave sounds (I actually despise anything repetitive, so all techno and similar things are avoided by me), because they just don't "feel" right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Diametro Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 I LOVE high pitched sounds ... The Jupiter-6 is great because imo it can be piercing, beautiful and ORGANIC in the ultra upper frequencies ... The trick is to not go there too long ... like a barnstormer doing a loop-de-loop or sticking a finger in only to withdraw a moment later ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 or sticking a finger in only to withdraw a moment later ... Que? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yoozer Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 In the video game forums Pff! What do they know? people always critisize square waves and saw waves ect, just because there not "naturally/realistically smooth." It's got more to do with the aliasing effects and the fact that the NES and Genesis both don't have a lowpass filter (while the SID does). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Diametro Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 Que? exactly ... certain sounds can be a real "eye" (i.e. orifice) opener ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoundwaveLove Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 High frequencies+loudness=penetrating sound. Especially with supersaw sounds with resonance, and not much filtered.I also don't like uber-detuned gnarly rave sounds (I actually despise anything repetitive, so all techno and similar things are avoided by me), because they just don't "feel" right to me. That's the exact reason I like rave hoovers, they don't feel right, the repetition makes me feel strange, and i get into the strangeness of it. Although it's really on cool in context of an actual rave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 I meant to say - I find nothing special in repetitiveness, it cannot interest me. A composition must evolve and change (rhythmically ESPECIALLY) over its duration for me to even consider it a serious listenable experience. Different roots, I guess. I'm a rock kind of guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoundwaveLove Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 I meant to say - I find nothing special in repetitiveness, it cannot interest me. A composition must evolve and change (rhythmically ESPECIALLY) over its duration for me to even consider it a serious listenable experience. Different roots, I guess. I'm a rock kind of guy Sure it needs to evolve, otherwise it's not a song, it's just a phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Diametro Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 Repetition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 Eh, how to express it... The beat. I hate that beat. Goes over and over and over. My head hurts ^^' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TropicThink Posted February 15, 2009 Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 Eh, how to express it... The beat. I hate that beat. Goes over and over and over. My head hurts ^^' What's wrong with um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts,um-ts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted February 15, 2009 Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 Exactly that. Boooooriiiiiiiiiiiiinggggggggg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoundwaveLove Posted February 15, 2009 Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 Exactly that. Boooooriiiiiiiiiiiiinggggggggg. That's the stuff you hear in the clubs downtown. I don't think anyone takes that too stuff seriously. Gotta have a little funk to make in interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted February 15, 2009 Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 I'm avoiding that at all costs. To me anything that's comprised of that "thing" and its derivates, I'm not calling it music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mate_stubb Posted February 15, 2009 Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 What's wrong with um-ts,um-ts? It's called disco. We banished it to the nether regions in the early 80's but you young whippersnappers resurrected it. Now you have to live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kooki_sf Posted February 15, 2009 Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 That's the stuff you hear in the clubs downtown. I don't think anyone takes that too stuff seriously. Gotta have a little funk to make in interesting. richie hawtin is super serial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members synthangel Posted February 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 I don't beleive NES needed a low-pass filter, because you just can't get harsh tones using square wave channels (at least with the way I hear things) while the Genesis would've benefited with a low-pass filter, because yamaha's old fm chips could sometimes be screachy when it wasn't well tuned. The SNES had a low-pass filter but I don't believe it was necessary on to have on a PCM chip, and it seems to have made the music a bit duller, lower and blurrier than it could've been. In mp3s you can find on the internet, I notice a big difference from music being recorded from a real Snes, and music that was recorded from an emulation source, because emulators don't usually emulate the filter and as a result you can hear nuances in the music that come off as faded on a real system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Diametro Posted February 15, 2009 Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 Exactly that. Boooooriiiiiiiiiiiiinggggggggg. Then put it through a flanger and a randomized slicer ... and try hitting a few more buttons ... PRO TIP ... when in doubt, press buttons and move things ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted February 15, 2009 Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 Protip just play progressive rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Diametro Posted February 15, 2009 Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpatz Posted February 15, 2009 Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 Repetitive? "I like to move it, move it...""I like to move it, move it...""I like to move it, move it...""I like to move it, move it..."(repeat about 5,000 times)End of song! Dang, I could have created that in about 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members synthangel Posted February 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 I hate songs where the repetition of the chorus is the entire song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Re-Member Posted February 15, 2009 Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 I could list a million different things I dislike about both progressive rock and repetitious dance music, but that doesn't make either any less valid than the other. Objective ideals can never change the fact that taste will always be subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ShakaCthulu Posted February 15, 2009 Members Share Posted February 15, 2009 In the video game forums, people always critisize square waves and saw waves ect, just because there not "naturally/realistically smooth." They also hate high frequencies because apparantly they make their ears bleed. How can so many people be so sensitive to high notes that their ears bleed whenever there is a wave over, let's say 1000Hz? I could understand things like scratching a chalkboard hurting your ears, but for instance a trance song that contains a lot of pretty "instraments" that are rich in frequencies does nothing but relaxes and sooths me, but some people just can't stand those kinds of sounds. My dorkometer just melted. Jeezus, what a bunch of dinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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