i gotsa plan!!

were havin a tree cut down from our yard, it's a big ass oak tree. apprently its old as {censored}, and is hollow inside.

CRAVIOTTO SHELL!!!!!

im gonna take a piece, try and find one around 15"-20".

cut it down to 14". make it the same size as my sonor snare, so i can just swap the hardware.

my ? is.......can i do the edges myself? would a drill-sander work?

how do you cut a 45 degree edge?

I dunno, you may have a hard time getting an even 45 deg. edge all the way around. I think you'd have to have some kind of special jig to put it on a lathe, or something like that.

But hey, it's free. You got nothing to lose trying it yourself!

Originally posted by the DW I dunno, you may have a hard time getting an even 45 deg. edge all the way around. I think you'd have to have some kind of special jig to put it on a lathe, or something like that. But hey, it's free. You got nothing to lose trying it yourself!

do you think a redneck whos never touched a drum would know what im talking if i asked him to cut me a 45 degree edge on a drum shell? figured someone around here would do it for cheap, i just dont know if they'll follow what im talkin about though:confused:

lung, find a cheap-o snare drum and use the hardware offa that.

your Sonor's gonna get pissed if you disassemble it for a log.

i can always just put it back together:D

any answers to the second question?

is there anybody online who does edges?

I'm thinking, it takes some special tool/machine, to cut a 45 degree bearing edge, on a circular object.....

I can cut 45 degree angles all day long, with my skil-saw or jig-saw....just wouldn't try it on a circular object

Well, you're probably gonna have to take a chunk of the log to some woodworking dude anyway, to have them cut it to size (and make sure it's a perfectly perpendicular cut), and lathe the outside to get it to be perfectly round. So while he's got it on the lathe, you could ask him to cut the edges.

...or not.

Aqualung,

Here's a little something that may help you comprehend the real world around you... I think you are mixed up between bluecollar worker and redneck...

www.dba-oracle.com/redneck.htm

So if you are going to stereotype people at least know what your talking about so you don't look like such a dumb ass....

And far as bearing edges you will also need a 3/16 or 3/32 round edge on the outter edge of the 45 bearing edge...

Drill and sander???

Won't never get it BOY !!!

You will need at least a router and a router table with some very sharp router bits and also will need a very smooth edge for the router bit bearing to glide along on to get a near perfect cut...

Far as the oak theary a redneck is going to think what dumb-ass would want to use oak for anything but firewood...

Oak, after your hard work involved to get it rounded (if you even can) will most likely end up drying out and busting and or cracking...

So instead of coming up with these dumbass ideas, why don't you grasp reality and joinin the rest of us in the real world!!!

I know you will probably reply with some smart remarks ;

But you know I really don't give a damn what you think !!!

do you have a bakup snare?

unless you can get the log working with a quickness you'll be snaredrumless.

not ideal.

well put, trackman....oak , when alive, is a very heavy wood....then, once dead, and cut down, immediately begins, drying, and cracking/splitting....perfect for firewood....and used, also here in the south, in our BBQ pits.....if trying to cut into a drum, nothing will do the trick, except machines.....as stated earlier, everything will need to be perfectly round....45's need to be perfect....

now, if you're planning to stretch a piece of dried cowhide across it for say, a bongo, or jungle drum, then it might work...

hey, aqua, what happened to the 'glass' snare you were planning?

oh, and also, oak is also a great wood, used in making shipping pallets/crates, due to it's weight/strength

do a bit of research, see how many custom drum companies have ever used it for making drum shells?

wrong, dickcheese. i live around rednecks, not blue-collar workers.

and you have a distaste for my ideas, yet you want to comment on them....thats lame.

riiiiiiiight...i dont live in reality cause i want to make a drum:rolleyes:

go sew a confederate flag:bor:

too expensive, too impractical. i got oak 20 ft. in front of me

aqua....you were looking to sell a piece of your equipment last month, looking to only get $60, due to the fact you were 'strapped' for cash......I'm thinking, you won't have the funds needed, to design and create a snare drum, that will sound like nothing more than, say a dead piece of oak?

The special tool is called a router mounted in a router table with a 45 degree chamfer bit that has a guide bearing in it. But first you'll need to turn the slab of oak down to a shell on a lathe. It will need to dry for a year or so before you can do that. And then you hope it don't develop any cracks in the drying that will kill turning it on a lathe.

In the mean time, if you can put together $120, you can get a really nice segment shell here to bolt all of your snare's hardware to. He even cut's the edges and beds for free for you.

well {censored}, how much would they charge just {censored}in cut a drum shell?

Yamaha makes (made?) some oak drums.

not suggesting they're anything close to a rough-hewn oak log drum.

Since the wood's close by, I'd say g'head and try to make a drum out of it. Don't sacrifice your only working snare for it, though.

As for your neighbors, paint them with as broad a brush as you please.

If you keep an open mind and get to know some of them, you'll find some to be ignorant assholes, and some you'll be glad you met. Same as anywhere else.

I've lived on both coasts and spent a lot of time in redneck country as well. Dumb and smart people everywhere.

i've seen, in lumber yards, sheets of 1/8" and 1/4" thick plywood, cabinet-grade material...i believe this all has been through some kind of treating process, which would take time......wouldn't the drum resonate better, if it were made from several different plies, rather than, one solid slab of oak, cut into the proper diameter?..

but, give it a shot.....I think your first step, will need to be, to take the stump/slab of oak, to someone, who can cut it to proper diameter(but only after you have let it dry properly).....and to do this, think about a HUGE hole-saw....

well in terms of being dry, the tree dude said it was dead and hollow inside.

as for the ply thing, arent craviotto shells made from a solid stump?

not really sure on that one...are the craviotto shells made from oak?...

I just think that one of the characteristics of oak, is it's continuous splitting, even after drying out....

i'm only thinking, that since you might want the shell/wall of your drum to be somewhat thin, the splitting/cracking characteristic of oak, might not be the best route.....

but, as you said, you have plenty of oak to begin your project.....keep it somewhere that will stay hot, and not be exposed to too much moisture or humidity....

were there ANY leaves, or greenery remaining on the tree at all, when it was cut down....most of your 'larger' trees, can be dying, and rotten on the inside, while still maintaining some life....kinda like a lot of women....all dead on the inside, but still just enuff life, to rip a man apart!!!

Originally posted by TimeKeeper310 not really sure on that one...are the craviotto shells made from oak?... I just think that one of the characteristics of oak, is it's continuous splitting, even after drying out.... i'm only thinking, that since you might want the shell/wall of your drum to be somewhat thin, the splitting/cracking characteristic of oak, might not be the best route..... but, as you said, you have plenty of oak to begin your project.....keep it somewhere that will stay hot, and not be exposed to too much moisture or humidity.... were there ANY leaves, or greenery remaining on the tree at all, when it was cut down....most of your 'larger' trees, can be dying, and rotten on the inside, while still maintaining some life....kinda like a lot of women....all dead on the inside, but still just enuff life, to rip a man apart!!!

the tree was full of little nut things, and dropped leaves everywhere. the thing is.......the pieces the dude was hauling away were perfectly round, so id just hollow it and sand it.

Steam bent.

Like I said, the price is right! Go for it. If it don't work out, take the hardware off and use it as a prop at a show. Set it on fire or something dramatic!

Once again, your optimism and attitude is cool but your knowledge of the world around you is gonna leave you dissapointed.

Look at any drum shell-- the grain goes around the drum, not from head to head.

I guarantee that with a lot of effort you could make a drum-like thing, maybe even something that looks like a drum.

But you're never gonna get something to play from that material in that way.

Of course, I'm thinkin' you're putting people on; surely you can't be serious.

That hunk of oak is going to take one mutha of a lathe to turn. Takes a large motor to turn a piece of wood that large. Also takes a lathe that's large enough to handle a finished piece that's going to have a an outside diameter of 14". So it's not something that Joe Woodworker is going to have in his garage. You'd have to have someone do it for you.