Members Meness Posted October 17, 2012 Members Share Posted October 17, 2012 The difference between my chest voice is too disorientating for me to sing any high notes... [soundCloud] I really much prefer my chest tone, and would love to get that into my head voice. I've been following Brett Manning's Mastering Mix program but haven't been free enough to complete it. Would the program actually be helpful? Or am I just stuck with singing in my chest voice forever? Thanks in advance! p.s. I read that I should give advice on other threads first...but I'm really just a beginner at this thing. Edit : Here's my attempt at using both voices at once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Masklin Posted October 17, 2012 Members Share Posted October 17, 2012 Meh, your falsetto is fine. Just keep practising, trying to make it more chesty. Adding volume will also in itself make your head sound less false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jersey Jack Posted October 17, 2012 Members Share Posted October 17, 2012 ^^^ This. No problem with your head-voice. I do believe that Brett's program will be helpful, as it focuses on connecting head and chest--to the point of obsession, imo, as if this is the holy grail of voice. Just curious: Are you using head voice on that clip because you really can't hit the note in chest voice or because Brett told you that you should be in head-voice at this point? One of the reasons why you might experience head-voice here as a bit odd-sounding is that it seems to be in a place where you probably could use chest-voice. Perhaps you're going into head-voice prematurely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members staticsound Posted October 17, 2012 Members Share Posted October 17, 2012 Originally Posted by Jersey Jack One of the reasons why you might experience head-voice here as a bit odd-sounding is that it seems to be in a place where you probably could use chest-voice. Perhaps you're going into head-voice prematurely? This. Sounds like you're trying to bridge too early. Like jack said, can you not carry your chest up that high?And if your wanting a nice chesty head voice, YouTube Robert Lunte and the TVS vocal program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meness Posted October 18, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 18, 2012 Thank you for all your feedback! Really? It doesn't sound horrid? Cause a lot of people have said it sounds so terrible it's hilarious. Originally Posted by Masklin Meh, your falsetto is fine. Just keep practising, trying to make it more chesty. Adding volume will also in itself make your head sound less false. Yeah that's what I've been trying to do :/ I did notice adding volume makes it sound more chesty, but it never goes to the point where I stop sounding like a girl. Originally Posted by Jersey Jack ^^^ This. No problem with your head-voice. I do believe that Brett's program will be helpful, as it focuses on connecting head and chest--to the point of obsession, imo, as if this is the holy grail of voice.Just curious: Are you using head voice on that clip because you really can't hit the note in chest voice or because Brett told you that you should be in head-voice at this point? One of the reasons why you might experience head-voice here as a bit odd-sounding is that it seems to be in a place where you probably could use chest-voice. Perhaps you're going into head-voice prematurely? Originally Posted by staticsound This. Sounds like you're trying to bridge too early. Like jack said, can you not carry your chest up that high?And if your wanting a nice chesty head voice, YouTube Robert Lunte and the TVS vocal program. It's true that I probably 'could' hit that note with my chest voice. I start struggling with a middle C. I can shout out a D above middle C strenuously. That said, there has been once where I could hit a G above middle C (which is the highest note in what I'm singing here)... I don't recall if I was just shouting but I was playing guitar in a band and just doing some backing vocals, and the note was actually pretty comfortable. I've never hit that note with my chest again though, I wouldn't dare to without different instruments covering my voice. Anyway, since I've read all over the place that I shouldn't be doing it if it hurts, I've been trying this 'mix' thing. Also, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, but if I sing with a low larynx the middle C is just a hit and miss thing. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?And thank you StaticSound for the suggestion. I'll look into it Thanks again, here's hoping to getting good advice to point me in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Masklin Posted October 18, 2012 Members Share Posted October 18, 2012 You don't come across as a bass voice - it's a bit odd that you'd be uncomfortable already at C4. I'd say you need to practise technique. Also, don't be afraid of the volume boost you get when singing in high chest. If you obsess over keeping a low volume (like, you're recording night-time in a dorm or smth), you might never find high chest comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faizanmujtaba Posted October 20, 2012 Members Share Posted October 20, 2012 You need a some confidence to do this because you support is very good but if you have some confidence to doing this so you prob is solve. My best wishes with you. You do it now,,,,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meness Posted October 22, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 22, 2012 Originally Posted by Masklin You don't come across as a bass voice - it's a bit odd that you'd be uncomfortable already at C4. I'd say you need to practise technique.Also, don't be afraid of the volume boost you get when singing in high chest. If you obsess over keeping a low volume (like, you're recording night-time in a dorm or smth), you might never find high chest comfortable. I checked again and I guess after practice for a period of time, I can hit an F4 pretty comfortably now But my G4, sounds really terrible. This clip will show you how bad the difference is...And thank you, I've taken that to note and it does seem easier! Originally Posted by faizanmujtaba You need a some confidence to do this because you support is very good but if you have some confidence to doing this so you prob is solve.My best wishes with you.You do it now,,,,,,,,, Thank you! But my support is actually terrible. At least in my chest voice it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted October 22, 2012 Moderators Share Posted October 22, 2012 I checked out both clips. Not bad. The 2nd clip is actually a lot better than the first one and probably closer to your true voice. You're probably a tenor. G4 is actually a pretty tough note. For me it feels like one of those notes that get breathy if I don't support enough, or will crack if I over-support. Its like walking a tightrope. You should probably try to work on maintaining a mix voice throughout your middle range and try to avoid using too much pure chest voice. Thickening your low notes too much will make higher notes harder to sing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meness Posted October 22, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 22, 2012 Originally Posted by davie I checked out both clips. Not bad. The 2nd clip is actually a lot better than the first one and probably closer to your true voice. You're probably a tenor. G4 is actually a pretty tough note. For me it feels like one of those notes that get breathy if I don't support enough, or will crack if I over-support. Its like walking a tightrope.You should probably try to work on maintaining a mix voice throughout your middle range and try to avoid using too much pure chest voice. Thickening your low notes too much will make higher notes harder to sing. Yes yes yes. I totally agree. If I don't push it sounds weak and falsetto-ish. But if I push.........mehh. I've been trying that, but it just doesn't sound great. It gives me a very dull and bland tone...or maybe I just haven't mastered my mix. Thickening....like how I did in the first clip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chamcham Posted October 26, 2012 Members Share Posted October 26, 2012 Ken Tamplin describes head voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meness Posted November 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 9, 2012 So I was told I could try covering some songs by Pierce The Veil or Sleeping With Sirens cause of similar voice qualities. Idk how true this is though, I can't sound as good as them :|But anyway, I tried to cover a certain part of King For a Day, which features both of the singers from the two bands:The part I sing starts @ about 1:23 in the video.Here's my tryI want your opinions on whether I can sing similarly and whether I should strive for this style. And if I can, what steps should I take to improve? Would really appreciate any help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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