Members keyman_sam v2.0 Posted February 3, 2007 Members Share Posted February 3, 2007 keyboard horns sound just like real horns and are much cheaper too. one of my friend's bands had a jazz band with 4 horns, saxophone, rhodes and a vocalist. I took him to GC once, showed him the Motif, and the next thing he did was dump the horns for the upcoming gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhat Posted February 3, 2007 Members Share Posted February 3, 2007 keyboard horns sound just like real horns and are much cheaper too. one of my friend's bands had a jazz band with 4 horns, saxophone, rhodes and a vocalist. I took him to GC once, showed him the Motif, and the next thing he did was dump the horns for the upcoming gigs. There is just somthing about real horn sections that dont have the mojo of the fake keyboard generated ones. It really isnt about the sound..as much as it is about the excitment of a band that has the real deal. If you have ever played in a band with real horns you will know what i am talking about....if not ,, you prolly wont understand. It does cut up the money more ways..but it does draw more money so i think its basically a wash. As a keyboard guy ,, i really liked a real horn section .... they load in their instrument and you have alot of extra help to grunt the heavy gear....lol. rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kuhnfyoozed Posted February 3, 2007 Members Share Posted February 3, 2007 A keyboard can sound like a real horn section, but that doesn't mean it will feel like one. If you saw two bands playing a show, one of which had a keyboard player playing a Coltrane song with a tenor sax patch, and the other which had a real saxophonist playing a Coltrane song, which would people probably be more interested in? I think more people would want to see the band with the saxophone over the band with the keyboard. IMO, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jim Clark Posted February 3, 2007 Members Share Posted February 3, 2007 keyboard horns sound just like real horns and are much cheaper too. one of my friend's bands had a jazz band with 4 horns, saxophone, rhodes and a vocalist. I took him to GC once, showed him the Motif, and the next thing he did was dump the horns for the upcoming gigs. Hi keyman_sam v2.0, Here are two very brief audio clips that are the same except for replacing sampled horns (JABB) with real ones (from RealSax.com). Horns used are Flugelhorn, Alto Sax, Tenor Sax and Bari Sax Other instruments in these tracks: Drums are BFD. Bass is Trilogy. Piano is ArtVistaVirtual Grand. This first sample uses the very good (IMO) VSTi horns from Garritan Jazz & Big Band VSTi. Listen to it here: http://www.realsax.com/audio/4HornsJABB.mp3 This second is using the same instrumentation, but replacing the sampled horns with real horns (from RealSax.com): http://www.realsax.com/audio/4HornsReal.mp3 What differences do you hear? The difference between sampled or synth and real horns becomes more evident in exposed solo passages. If I have a chance to mock something up for you, I will. Regards, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members rhat Posted February 3, 2007 Members Share Posted February 3, 2007 Any of you horn people ever hear of a synthaphone. Its a electronic sax of some kind based upon a selmer horn. I guy here in town has one. He has some yamahaw thing before that sounded like ass ...this new one is suppose to be alot better. rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jim Clark Posted February 3, 2007 Members Share Posted February 3, 2007 The synthaphone, if I recall correctly, is a wind controller that looks like a sax, unlike the Yamaha WX5/7 or EWI which look nothing like a sax. But for any of these, they are used to control a synthesizer that they hook up to, and use sax -style fingerings for pitch, wind for volume and lip pressure on the "reed" for pitch bending. Hope this helps. Regards, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar55 Posted February 3, 2007 Members Share Posted February 3, 2007 We have one sax inthe band and sometimes our keyboard player plays a trumpet patch with him. It really fattens it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhat Posted February 3, 2007 Members Share Posted February 3, 2007 The synthaphone, if I recall correctly, is a wind controller that looks like a sax, unlike the Yamaha WX5/7 or EWI which look nothing like a sax. But for any of these, they are used to control a synthesizer that they hook up to, and use sax -style fingerings for pitch, wind for volume and lip pressure on the "reed" for pitch bending. Hope this helps.Regards,Jim Thats what i figured it was ...Personally i would rather work with real horn players. I was a piano player for the school jazz band ,, and played in a jazz rock/ motown type group ,, that had real horns..and very good vocal harmony.... it was like a licence to steal when it came to getting gigs and getting paid. rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted February 4, 2007 Members Share Posted February 4, 2007 Because this thread was started as nothing more than a trolling attempt, I am going to lock it. In the future, I will not tolerate any threads of this sort in this forum and they will be removed, no questions asked. -SBB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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