Makzimia

Hi All,

I'm going to necro my own thread :). How do we all feel about this today?.

Tony

On 9/2/2021 at 8:54 PM, Mikeo said:

I have a few Shubbs capo's and they are nice, but you are correct, they don't clip on to the head stock when you are not using them. 

I also have a few Kyser capos, and I like them too. However eventually the spring will break, it could even snap when putting it on you guitar and put a nice dent in the neck. Happened.

 

Now to top it off, I was given a G7. They are nice too, but very heavy.

I'm old enough to remember these, and have used them.

 

 

Just literally got rid of the bottom type 4 years ago, had it for decades!. 

I had an SC55 WAY back too, last time I remember having it was around 1995, had it sitting on top of my Yamaha Clavinova. I still have a TX81z and a JV1080. Very good to have options in rack hardware still IMHO. I run my midi stuff through an older USB Motu Midi express.

Serious answer, Roc n Soc. Just do it, along with back rest, best investment EVER!.

I took your suggested title and changed to it, if that's ok . I think that you're right of course.

 

I've always thought so, but back when we were using tape (I'm still using tape) we did take after take until it was "Right" or until everyone was so tired it was considered close enough. On the other hand, some of the best albums were live.

I think a lot of us come from this background and shifted to various hybrid or total ITB setups. My take on recording remains, write it, practice it, record it. A lot of the me me me generation think practicing at the time they perform or record is totally in order. And since we have all this cool stuff, can't we just fix it. Sadly, a lot of producers and engineers are more than happy to fix it after. I admit I have tried to go that way a few times, it never works well for me though, I just cringe at it. I also don't believe removing every pop and squeak and breath, within reason, is a great thing.

When the lowest common denominator rules the roost, we've got issues.

Let me step back in here and explain myself a little clearer. Let's say I want to record an acoustic guitar for example. The player plays in time, it's a great recording, good mic, good pre-amp, but OH NO, there's a scratchy sound, fret noise, OH NO!!!. I can pull it out with something like Izotope's RX. But, should I? does it REALLY matter... it never used to. I would argue, and rightfully, IMHO, removing all those sorts of elements is why we are hungry for that analog sound. It was warm and unbridled, because some tech nerd hadn't worked out how to remove all reality out of music .

Just my .02 on it.

Tony

I began recording in 1984 on a 4 track Tascam 244. I'm trying very hard to use that same approach to recording now. Worry more on the take, use only what's really needed, and walk away when it plays on many places the same way I hear it in my studio speakers. Thanks everyone for your inputs so far .

End listener hasn't the choices of the engineers.

 

who might be frustrated fashion designers...

Classic... but seriously, I think it does become a case of taking the process too seriously some times. We want to do the best we can, but is our best too far sometimes, I think so.

This whole thread could really spawn another...

 

How many artists would have never been noticed if not for Good/Inventive engineers?

 

Engineers, or producers, some are both of course. I am not debating the need for sanity checks, I just think we do have too much information overload sometimes.

All totally valid reason Mike . I guess saying specifically the obvious, to me, of music being shaped specifically for a genre. I am well aware of diversity in music, and lots I definitely cannot stand listening to, whether done right or not. Thanks.

Hi Mark, I think a lot of why there is so much emphasis on perfection is because of loops and virtual over live miced music. Anyway, yes, I'm from the UK. I just thought this was a good topic for us all to discuss, and maybe make some headroom for myself to stop sweating the stuff that never used to matter. If it feels good, people dig it, it's golden, no? .

So, let me play devils advocate, if the people who like your songs like them, who cares whether a seriously competent engineer thinks something could be subjectively different?. I am not saying we put out stuff that is just sloppy trash, or that hurts your ears at certain frequencies. My point was, if it plays well on all devices and everyone that heard it likes it, isn't that the whole point really?.

Tony

Hi all,

I ask this question, because I have seen a trend since computers became so much a part of our industry for recording. I remember back in the days of tape, we did what we did, it was either sounding good, or it wasn't. If someone hears a song, likes it, but then something sounds a little different than they expect, put it through some program and go, oh yeah, that's off by... insert whatever... are we doing ourselves, and others, any favours?. It translates to sound the same on any system as your studio feel was. If it sounds good, you enjoy it, isn't that enough?.

Thanks for input,

Tony