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  1. One of the reasons for that (and this connects with your first point), is the sheer amount of music that's being released these days. There used to be so-called gate-keepers, producers, executives, etc, who limited quantity, influenced taste, and decided what got out there and what didn't. The downside of the current situation, as has been mentioned many times, is that if there were a Stevie Wonder equivalent now, no one would hear him because he'd just be a drop in the grey of the massive musical "content" that's out there. However, as some have also pointed out, it's much easier now for a niche artist or a someone working in an obscure/weird genre to find their audience (and easier for the audience to find them.) What this says about quality, I can't say for sure; it's probably the case that the same % of what's out there is still garbage (Sturgeon's Law), it's just that there's a lot more of it.
  2. Yes and the curious thing now is that people are being conditioned to like music that is essentially "robotic" for lack of a better word. I wonder if it's part of this evolutionary step towards cyborg or hybrid life forms.
  3. You don't want it to be about digital vs analog but unfortunately, I think that is a lot of it. Human feeling isn't digital for one thing. And as Phil said, better material, musicianship, performance, etc. One debate I've been having lately on this topic with musicians has settled on the issue of familiarity. This debate had more to do with drum loops and preprogrammed beats vs real drummers, but I think the issue might be the same. For people who came up listening to X, X sounds better. It's not a rational response - IOW, there's no way to persuade anyone that it sounds better but it just does. For a lot of (younger) people, electronic beats do just sound better than "sloppy" human drummers. PS I love those JHeifetz recordings!
  4. Without your slick, over-produced fake jazz rock poser "accessories," you guys would fall over board and get eaten by a guppy. Vikings crossed the Atlantic Ocean in open boats powered by Odin, Thor and riffs like.... [video=youtube;TRjH_gJbUqQ]
  5. Lol. Yes but that would be true wherever he went. And only after he'd bitten the heads off a few yacht rockers.
  6. Dude you know WAY more about yacht rock than you do about any other musical style and you've been waxing poetic about it in this thread. Just deal with that fact. BTW, Ozzy Osbourne wouldn’t even be allowed to swab the deck on the Yacht. He wouldn't be caught dead near it. He would be part of the crew of this ship destroying it. [ATTACH=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","title":"viking-ship-painting-lovely-best-tattoo-ideas-on-longboat.jpg","data-attachmentid":32529369}[/ATTACH]
  7. Wow...you sure have some deep knowledge of this genre. Much much deeper I would say than any other genre you've discussed on this forum. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
  8. But that was because they're drummers.
  9. I'm glad you used the words "rough" and "functionally" here. It would be more accurate to say that Steve Vai is the equivalent of Paganini but in a highly degraded cultural context.
  10. I really like the sound of some of the early Cocteau Twins records, especially Head over Heels though I imagine Anton hates that one. There were a few others on 4AD that I also still like a lot - for example Throwing Muses' House Tornado album and Wolfgang Press. Siouxsie' Tinderbox and Juju are also two favorites from that era - mostly for the music but also for the atmosphere and mood of the recordings. For me in many cases, it's more about the atmosphere or soundscape created by the production. I don't think that it has to be some rigidly defined thing. The production can and should be part of the aesthetic effect experienced by the listener. If the Fall or the Stooges' or Sonic Youth's records sounded like Phil Spector or some other more current mainstream sound engineer, they wouldn't have the same artistic value IMO. :cool03:
  11. [QUOTE=Opposite Day;n32493912]Out of the Cellar Invasion Of Privacy Dancing Undercover :rawk:[/QUOTE] Great pick! :barf:
  12. [QUOTE=Red Ant;n32493232] That's not helpful. [B]Suggesting that I listen to 3 Dylan albums, especially his early work, is like suggesting I stick 3 safety pins in my face and "try to enjoy it". [/B]You have a specific example, ONE song where he "synthesizes a new form of the 12 bar blues"?[/QUOTE] :lol: Though there were plenty of "alternative" types in the 70s and 80s who did just that.
  13. Don't want to run afoul of the classic rock orthodoxy here at HCPP but: [B]Mr Bungle:[/B] Mr Bungle Disco Volante California [B]The Fall:[/B] This Nation's Saving Grace Bend Sinister The Frenz Experiment [B]The Stooges:[/B] The Stooges Raw Power Funhouse [B]David Bowie:[/B] Low Heroes Lodger [B]X:[/B] Los Angeles Wild Gift Under the Big Black Sun More Fun in the New World [B]Jesus Lizard:[/B] Goat Liar Down [B]ZZTop:[/B] Rio Grande Mud Tres Hombres Fandango
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