Members guitarman3001 Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 I'm totally confused. From what I can tell, there is absolutely no difference between the LP Vintage Mahogany which is apparently no longer made and the studio faded worn which is currently being sold. Only difference I see is they got cheap and started sending them with a gig bag instead of hardshell case. The description of the VM from musiciansfriend: The Gibson Les Paul Vintage Mahogany brings together old and new Les Paul features to create a unique and special guitar. The round warmth of a carved mahogany top on a mahogany back first debuted in the famous 1957 Custom Black Beauty. Now Gibson brings this fabulous wood combo back with the added vintage edge of Gibson's Alnico V BurstBucker Pro humbuckers. Designed especially for the new Gibson Les Paul Standards, these pickups provide pure tone lovers with stunning humbucking tone on their electric guitars. A '59 rounded Les Paul mahogany neck with rosewood fretboard and trapezoid inlays is fast yet substantial. Gibson Les Paul Vintage Mahogany Electric Guitar Features: * Carved mahogany top and mahogany back * '59 rounded Les Paul mahogany neck * Rosewood fingerboard * Tune-o-matic bridge with stopbar * Chrome hardware * Alnico V BurstBucker Pro pickups * 2 volume and 2 tone knobs, 3-way switch -------------------------------------------------- These are the exact same specs as the studio faded. It looks like they even used the exact same pic. The vintage mahogany: The faded worn cherry: Fuck me if this isn't the exact same guitar, just renamed for some reason. Am I missing something here? And a pox on the cheapskates who decided to stop including hard shell cases with them! I ordered the faded and it's supposed to come with a gig bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MichaelSaulnier Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 There oughta be a LAW... Chickanery, hucksterism, downright tomfoolery. Sneeky Gibson management... same price, different name, less value. Yup. Sounds like them. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoJo68 Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 the faded has 490R and 498T Alnico II magnet humbucker pickups, LPVM has burstbuckers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted December 4, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 the faded has 490R and 498T Alnico II magnet humbucker pickups, LPVM has burstbuckers the faded worn brown and worn cherry come with BB pros just like the VM. Same exact guitar, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoJo68 Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 the faded worn brown and worn cherry come with BB pros just like the VM. Same exact guitar, imo. your wrong http://www.amazon.com/Gibson-Studio-Electric-Guitar-Mahogany/dp/B0002E53JW * Edit..actually I've found some places selling the faded with BB's too, weird. I always thought the fadeds had 490's and 498's, but now they are selling it with both types of pups. I want the black one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ExiledCrow Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 Nice one Gibson! I like that part of the rationale for their prices is always the whole ownership of a "first-class" instrument argument and then they nickel and dime ya with this kind of BS ... And before all you Gibson fans get all worked up, I love Gibson (instruments) I'm just not a fan of Gibson (boardroom/corporate) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted December 4, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 your wrong http://www.amazon.com/Gibson-Studio-Electric-Guitar-Mahogany/dp/B0002E53JW well, either you and amazon are wrong, or Gibson is wrong. I think I'll believe gibson. http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Les-Paul-Studio-Faded.aspx Also, from MF: Gibson Les Paul Studio Electric Guitar Features: * Carved maple top and mahogany back (Mahogany top on faded finish models) * Mahogany neck, '59 Rounded Les Paul * Rosewood fingerboard (Ebony on Alpine white) * Tune-O-Matic bridge with stopbar * Chrome or gold hardware * 490R and 498T Alnico 2 magnet humbucker pickups (BurstBucker Pro on faded finish models) * 2 volume and 2 tone knobs, 3-way switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted December 4, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 Just saw your edit. The black satin ebony comes with the 490/498 set. The worn brown and worn cherry come with the BB pros. Amazon is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JohnQ Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 Same guitars, no difference. My Faded Studio has BBs (which is why I have it listed as VM in the sig) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoJo68 Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 Just saw your edit. The black satin ebony comes with the 490/498 set. The worn brown and worn cherry come with the BB pros. Amazon is wrong. Cool. I swear they were available in europe as the faded with 490/498's in brown and cherry as well, back when they couldn't get lpvm's. I think the lpvm was a gc exclusive.Maybe that has something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JohnQ Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 Across the pond they also sell some faded studios with P90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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