Members slight-return Posted March 6, 2008 Members Share Posted March 6, 2008 careful, if this is successful, you might have to 1099 the homeless guys... I'd be more concerned about the potential for vicarious liability in having a drunk guy as agent, esp as the prinicpal is feeding the dude alcohol within the scope of his employment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Netvalar Posted March 7, 2008 Members Share Posted March 7, 2008 Oh you don't give the bum the wine till the job is done. So now what address do I send that 1099 to though hmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slight-return Posted March 7, 2008 Members Share Posted March 7, 2008 Oh you don't give the bum the wine till the job is done. So now what address do I send that 1099 to though hmmm? probably wise, I mean don't expect to automatically and totally shield you from potential liability, but at least it's not reckless in big red letters (though the payment with alcohol could be problematic, maybe just give him the cashish) it's just a risk exposure and your comfort level with it kinda thing...what level are you comfy with and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KennethNishimot Posted March 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 Alright, just thought of a new promotion technique, tell me what you think of this guys: Simulated onstage assasination/murder, and not any of this shock rock cartoony GWAR bullcrap neither. If you've ever seen the movie "Velvet Goldmine" you know what I'm talking about. Some dude pulls out a prop gun, bang bang, guitarist goes down Dimebag style, halfway through the freaking show. Hey zing, that's some free publicity right there. Holy crap, you might as well call me Guinness because I am BRILLIANT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sabriel9v Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 Alright, just thought of a new promotion technique, tell me what you think of this guys: Simulated onstage assasination/murder, and not any of this shock rock cartoony GWAR bullcrap neither. If you've ever seen the movie "Velvet Goldmine" you know what I'm talking about. Some dude pulls out a prop gun, bang bang, guitarist goes down Dimebag style, halfway through the freaking show. Hey zing, that's some free publicity right there. Holy crap, you might as well call me Guinness because I am BRILLIANT. I like it. Be sure to double check the gun's chamber and make sure the rounds are blanks though Velvet Goldmine is an amazing movie btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KennethNishimot Posted March 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 I like it. Be sure to double check the gun's chamber and make sure the rounds are blanks though Velvet Goldmine is an amazing movie btw If you wanna be a star you gotta act like a star. :cop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 I live in a concealed carry state. Pulling out a weapon and pointing it at the band,or anybody, might well get you shot by several people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KennethNishimot Posted March 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 I live in a concealed carry state. Pulling out a weapon and pointing it at the band,or anybody, might well get you shot by several people. Now that would be a stupid way to die. That being said, there has literally got to be a way to pull that off without risking some roadie getting capped. How about this: I just don't show up to a gig, spent the night watching mythbusters and jerking off or something, and I get my guitarist to announce that I died in a rollover car accident. Then they do a whole show, only without me. That's art right there. Not only is it socially relevant, it's positively postmodern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 Now that would be a stupid way to die.That being said, there has literally got to be a way to pull that off without risking some roadie getting capped. How about this: I just don't show up to a gig, spent the night watching mythbusters and jerking off or something, and I get my guitarist to announce that I died in a rollover car accident. Then they do a whole show, only without me. That's art right there. Not only is it socially relevant, it's positively postmodern. And you don't think that the minute people find out you're okay, that you wouldn't be regarded as the biggest douchebags in town? The quickest way to get people to hate you is to abuse their sympathies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ThreeGutRock Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 Selling merch at another band's show is pretty low, and probably won't be very successful. Who's going to buy a CD of a band they've never even heard at a show they're not even playing at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sabriel9v Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 Selling merch at another band's show is pretty low, and probably won't be very successful. Who's going to buy a CD of a band they've never even heard at a show they're not even playing at? I agree. It's just rude and piggybacking off someone else's efforts. The only way this tactic is not a completely scumball technique is if you're friends with the performing bands or artists and they give you permission to sell your stuff on there merch. table. But showing up unannounced and with no connections is a quick way to end up outside with a black eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KennethNishimot Posted March 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 And you don't think that the minute people find out you're okay, that you wouldn't be regarded as the biggest douchebags in town? The quickest way to get people to hate you is to abuse their sympathies. It's postmodern. The most direct way to get someone to suspend disbelief is if they truly believe something. i.e. performance passed off as real life, as well as vice versa. It is not audience abuse or falsehood, I feel, but art in it's most basic form. I.e. Lying for the sake of truth. It's literally the final death of the fourth wall, the audience becomes as the performers and as a result, simultaneous artistic trancendence occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sabriel9v Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 It is not audience abuse or falsehood, I feel, but art in it's most basic form. I.e. Lying for the sake of truth. It's literally the final death of the fourth wall, the audience becomes as the performers and as a result, simultaneous artistic trancendence occurs. Something smells a little funny here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted March 9, 2008 Members Share Posted March 9, 2008 Nice troll, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RyanVanHalen Posted March 9, 2008 Members Share Posted March 9, 2008 I could actually come and hit you in my car, that way everyone wins! You get publicity, your band doesn't have you at the gig, and my 1998 subaru legacy outback 'shelly' gets to taste blood again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sabriel9v Posted March 9, 2008 Members Share Posted March 9, 2008 my 1998 subaru legacy outback 'shelly' gets to taste blood again. Again? Are you sure that you should be on the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted March 10, 2008 Members Share Posted March 10, 2008 I could actually come and hit you in my car, that way everyone wins! You get publicity, your band doesn't have you at the gig, and my 1998 subaru legacy outback 'shelly' gets to taste blood again. Now THAT's unorthodox! (and funny, too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RyanVanHalen Posted March 10, 2008 Members Share Posted March 10, 2008 Delicious, delicious blood. works WAY better than oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Standard8 Posted March 10, 2008 Members Share Posted March 10, 2008 Roll a dried-up dog turd in a press release with a CD from your nemisis band and send it to every place in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sabriel9v Posted March 10, 2008 Members Share Posted March 10, 2008 Roll a dried-up dog turd in a press release with a CD from your nemisis band and send it to every place in town. Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RyanVanHalen Posted March 10, 2008 Members Share Posted March 10, 2008 Roll a dried-up dog turd in a press release with a CD from your nemisis band and send it to every place in town. I've been pooping in jars for years wondering what I'd do with the jars I'd filled and saved.... now it serves a purpose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dubplated Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Wow... or... carefully dissect the turds into bite sized pieces, dip in gourmet chocolate, and package carefully... if your into hip hop you can always battle the headliner... (wich has happened and been succesful... somewhat.) as far as techniques that are NOT detrimental to other's careers...You could; A: win the lottery, B: solicit yourself in actions that would constitute meth or heroin addiction, or C: do your homework and make good music. I go with C... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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