Members SublimeOi Posted April 13, 2005 Members Share Posted April 13, 2005 i just got a new 19" A custom crash and its pretty thin, like i can bend it easily with my hands... and im almost afriad to hit it hard because im afraid of cracking it or bending it or what not..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArtVandelay Posted April 13, 2005 Members Share Posted April 13, 2005 Originally posted by SublimeOi i just got a new 19" A custom crash and its pretty thin, like i can bend it easily with my hands... and im almost afriad to hit it hard because im afraid of cracking it or bending it or what not..... Hmm..sounds pretty delicate. I recommend you don't ever play it. Furthermore, the diameter is an odd number and everyone knows that cymbal diameters MUST be even number otherwise you risk damaging the cymbal - something about the resonant frequency of the alloy being better suited to even numbers. Seriously. No. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gcdrummer Posted April 13, 2005 Members Share Posted April 13, 2005 Art...what are you smoking talking about even sizes man? I've broken 3 cymbals and 2 were even sizes. I currently use a 16, 17, 18, and 19 in crash cymbals. As for that A custom being thin, I wouldn't worry about it. My 19 is an A Thin and it's the one that gets wacked the hardest coming off a long tom run. I love it because it explodes and goes away quickly. Plus, I can do that lame ass crash ride pattern on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockbeat Posted April 13, 2005 Members Share Posted April 13, 2005 Originally posted by SublimeOi i just got a new 19" A custom crash and its pretty thin, like i can bend it easily with my hands... and im almost afriad to hit it hard because im afraid of cracking it or bending it or what not..... Bash the living hell out of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Old Steve Posted April 13, 2005 Members Share Posted April 13, 2005 There's some people that say that THICKER cymbals crack easier then thin ones. The logic flows that a thick cymbal doesn't "give" when you hit it, and so it's relatively more brittle. I guess that makes some sense...skyscrapers and bridges are designed to flex with stress, whereas if they were too stiff, they'd just crack. Anyway, if you're TOO worried, just send it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steamyz Posted April 13, 2005 Members Share Posted April 13, 2005 Originally posted by Old Steve There's some people that say that THICKER cymbals crack easier then thin ones. The logic flows that a thick cymbal doesn't "give" when you hit it, and so it's relatively more brittle. I guess that makes some sense...skyscrapers and bridges are designed to flex with stress, whereas if they were too stiff, they'd just crack. Anyway, if you're TOO worried, just send it to me. That's true....and that 19" sounds great though i dont like it if it's over played - it tends to loose some it's tone when overhit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members green_monster Posted April 13, 2005 Members Share Posted April 13, 2005 Originally posted by rockbeat Bash the living hell out of it! I second that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HuskerDude Posted April 13, 2005 Members Share Posted April 13, 2005 Originally posted by Old Steve There's some people that say that THICKER cymbals crack easier then thin ones. The logic flows that a thick cymbal doesn't "give" when you hit it, and so it's relatively more brittle. I guess that makes some sense...skyscrapers and bridges are designed to flex with stress, whereas if they were too stiff, they'd just crack. Anyway, if you're TOO worried, just send it to me. That's how I've always looked at it. I see more cracked Zil Zs and "rock" cymbals in the trash at our big practice space than I do thin cymbals. Plus, IMO, thin cymbals sound better. More complex, less bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rca Posted April 13, 2005 Members Share Posted April 13, 2005 I think part of it is that you have to hit the heavy crashes hard all the time to make them sound right. A lighter crash will give you a nice explosion with a relatively light glancing blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArtVandelay Posted April 14, 2005 Members Share Posted April 14, 2005 I would add that, in generally, people who play heavier cymbals hit harder and are thus more likely to break ANY cymbal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MightyBricklayer Posted April 14, 2005 Members Share Posted April 14, 2005 Originally posted by ArtVandelay Furthermore, the diameter is an odd number and everyone knows that cymbal diameters MUST be even number otherwise you risk damaging the cymbal - something about the resonant frequency of the alloy being better suited to even numbers.Seriously.No. Seriously. seriously, that's malarky. a human diametrical measurement has no effect on how the resonant frequencey of a metal effects it's own stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArtVandelay Posted April 14, 2005 Members Share Posted April 14, 2005 Originally posted by MightyBricklayer seriously, that's malarky. a human diametrical measurement has no effect on how the resonant frequencey of a metal effects it's own stability. Do I really NEED to put smiley faces all over the place when I'm joking? I figured reapeating the word "Seriously" was enough, but I guess I've learned my lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArtVandelay Posted April 14, 2005 Members Share Posted April 14, 2005 Originally posted by MightyBricklayer seriously, that's malarky. a human diametrical measurement has no effect on how the resonant frequencey of a metal effects it's own stability. Let me restate that then: Furthermore, the diameter is an odd number and everyone knows that cymbal diameters MUST be even number otherwise you risk damaging the cymbal - something about the resonant frequency of the alloy being better suited to even numbers. Seriously. :D No. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KaoruKaido Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 Originally posted by Old Steve There's some people that say that THICKER cymbals crack easier then thin ones. The logic flows that a thick cymbal doesn't "give" when you hit it, and so it's relatively more brittle. I guess that makes some sense...skyscrapers and bridges are designed to flex with stress, whereas if they were too stiff, they'd just crack. Anyway, if you're TOO worried, just send it to me. I agree... I've heard a lot of thicker cymbals cracking than thin ones. Maybe most drummers think that thicker cymbals have a less tendency to crack so they play with them harder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HuskerDude Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by KaoruKaido I agree...I've heard a lot of thicker cymbals cracking than thin ones. Maybe most drummers think that thicker cymbals have a less tendency to crack so they play with them harder! I think a lot of it is also the fact that thicker cymbals are marketed towards "heavier" music, where the guys tend to hit harder anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dRUMMERgIRL27 Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by ArtVandelay Let me restate that then: Furthermore, the diameter is an odd number and everyone knows that cymbal diameters MUST be even number otherwise you risk damaging the cymbal - something about the resonant frequency of the alloy being better suited to even numbers. Seriously. :D No. Seriously. Are you serious?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members analog daniel Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by dRUMMERgIRL27 Are you serious?!?! :eek: YOU'VE got to be joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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