Members kenm Posted July 12, 2005 Members Share Posted July 12, 2005 Hey All, Well, I stripped a screw on my snare stand last night with a gig in two days. I have all Ludwig double braced light duty hardware. I guess this a good time to start replacing this stuff. I've never really been happy with it, but I bought it when I bought a Ludwig kit. Anyway, I want to replace it with DW hardware, the 5300 stand to be exact. Is DW the best hardware? Opinions? Should I go with Gibralter instead? Thanks! Be well,Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gcdrummer Posted July 12, 2005 Members Share Posted July 12, 2005 It's all good. DW, Gibraltar, Tama, Yamaha...Just look at the stands and determine which brands features interest you most. I have a 25 year old Tama single braced snare stand that hasn't failed me once...and I'm using an 8" deep snare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ulank Posted July 12, 2005 Members Share Posted July 12, 2005 Personally, I'm a fan of Yamaha, but I have some Pearl and Tama hardware too. I'm not a big fan of Gibralter stuff. My old drummer used that stuff and only one stand is still alive from those days and it's barely holding together. Overall though, I agree with gcdrummer. There are little nuances about every stand that might make you prefer one over the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Old Steve Posted July 12, 2005 Members Share Posted July 12, 2005 Originally posted by gcdrummer It's all good. DW, Gibraltar, Tama, Yamaha...Just look at the stands and determine which brands features interest you most.I have a 25 year old Tama single braced snare stand that hasn't failed me once...and I'm using an 8" deep snare. Tama's old single braced stuff was awesome. All the features of their double braced stuff, just lighter. I still have a couple of those cymbal stands lying around, and they work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tangman Posted July 12, 2005 Members Share Posted July 12, 2005 I like Tama. Ive got Tama and Pearl and the Tama stuff is better than the Pearl IMO the little black "cymbal mates" are the best invention ever haha. I use a Gibraltar rack, they are very similar in design to Tama but its hard to get a Tama rack over here and they also cos a LOT more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gcdrummer Posted July 12, 2005 Members Share Posted July 12, 2005 Originally posted by tangman ...the little black "cymbal mates" are the best invention ever haha.I use a Gibraltar rack, they are very similar in design to Tama but its hard to get a Tama rack over here and they also cos a LOT more. The Tama cymbal nuts are the bomb. That's enough right there to use Tama. I use a Gibraltar rack with Tama cymbal and tom mounts. To me that's the best there is. I'm going to get a custom kit built and I'm going to use the Tama Starcast mounting system on the new toms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockbeat Posted July 12, 2005 Members Share Posted July 12, 2005 You might look at Taye hardware as well. My wife bought me a couple of Taye cymbal stands recently and they are now my favorite stands. They have some pretty interesting design features like this omni-ball sort of thing where the cymbal sits instead of the usual two pieces that have teeth that fit together, and they're very tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members magooly Posted July 13, 2005 Members Share Posted July 13, 2005 You should look into vintage ludwig atlas hardware- it's awesome. Not really though, It would be a terrible waste of money at this point. Furthermore, I'm not really sure why I'm posting here at 2 in the morning. Damn! I'm tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drmrdude Posted July 13, 2005 Members Share Posted July 13, 2005 I like the DW 9000 stands because they don't use the teeth in the tilter so you can get it anywhere inbetween. Its pretty expensive though like over 100 for a stand. I like Tama's stands too. They are a bit cheaper too. I keep my ride on one and my rack tom and cymbal on another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tangman Posted July 13, 2005 Members Share Posted July 13, 2005 Tama and Pearl both make those type of stands lol. Im not sure what line the Pearl ones are. But the new Tama Roadpro hardware which come with the new Superstars all have that feature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Living Dead Drummer Posted July 13, 2005 Members Share Posted July 13, 2005 I have had real bad luck with Gibralter, I used to use all their stuff a few years back and I dented real easy. You could never put a muli-clamp on anything because it crushed it. The Rack I had from them was good, but not the booms or stands. Now that I use Peace drums I use all Peace hardware, man this stuff is really durable!!! It's real thick, almost to the point that you can't clamp anything on it because it's too big. I don't know if that's good or bad, but man this stuff can take a beating! Try the Arena 800 Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ignited Posted July 13, 2005 Members Share Posted July 13, 2005 From what I've seen, pretty much all of the major manufacturers make really solid hardware now. Right now I'm using a mix of Pearl and DW hardware, all of which is less than 5 years old and performs wonderfully. I'd recommend anything made by Pearl, DW, and Tama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ulank Posted July 13, 2005 Members Share Posted July 13, 2005 Originally posted by masonni I have had real bad luck with Gibralter, I used to use all their stuff a few years back and I dented real easy. You could never put a muli-clamp on anything because it crushed it. Yep. All of my drummer's Gibralter hardware looked like the back of Aunt Emma's thighs. Not pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Living Dead Drummer Posted July 14, 2005 Members Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by ulank Yep. All of my drummer's Gibralter hardware looked like the back of Aunt Emma's thighs. Not pretty. That is something I didn't want to picture.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ulank Posted July 14, 2005 Members Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by masonni That is something I didn't want to picture.... You know my Aunt Emma?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rca Posted July 14, 2005 Members Share Posted July 14, 2005 I have had good luck with Gilbraltar hardware. They make at least three different weights of stands including heavy weight double braced stands as well as light single braced stuff. You just have to pick the appropriate line for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Living Dead Drummer Posted July 14, 2005 Members Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by rca I have had good luck with Gilbraltar hardware. They make at least three different weights of stands including heavy weight double braced stands as well as light single braced stuff. You just have to pick the appropriate line for the job. I had the real heavy stuff from them. it was so bad that by the time I ditched it all you could no longer open or close the legs because the screw that kept it in place dented the large base pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ulank Posted July 14, 2005 Members Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by masonni I had the real heavy stuff from them. it was so bad that by the time I ditched it all you could no longer open or close the legs because the screw that kept it in place dented the large base pipe. Same here. I still have one stand by them. A big honkin double-brace one with the boom counterweight that I use for my China. I have it setup so really the only things I adjust are to open/close the legs and then to set the angle of the actually cymbal mount part (I fold it down so it fits in my hardware bag.) Everything else is completely collapsed so nothing else can slip/move. If I raise it at all, it just ends up slipping and/or spinning. Also, even if just lightly finger tighten the cymbal mount portion, when I go to undo it, it's like hercules tightened the damn thing. I won't even get into the gibralter DB pedals my drummer had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Old Steve Posted July 14, 2005 Members Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by masonni That is something I didn't want to picture.... I heard a good term for such thigh dentage: "hail damage". It can be used thusly: "Yeah, she was pretty hot looking until I saw her at the beach in a bikini....talk about hail damage...." Seemed appropraite. Feel free to spread it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gcdrummer Posted July 14, 2005 Members Share Posted July 14, 2005 The opposite of 'hail damage' is 'butter face'. You might hear it used like this... "Everything looked good butter face." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Old Steve Posted July 14, 2005 Members Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by gcdrummer The opposite of 'hail damage' is 'butter face'. You might hear it used like this..."Everything looked good butter face." yeah, I saw footage of Howard Stern's Miss Butterface Competition. Pretty funny stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members El Glom-o Posted July 15, 2005 Members Share Posted July 15, 2005 Anybody familiar with Axis hardware, snare stand and cymbal stands in particular? I have Axis A2 double bass drum pedals and one of their hi-hats, both of which I'm very pleased with, and I'm thinking about replacing some of my stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ClamBoy Posted July 15, 2005 Members Share Posted July 15, 2005 Originally posted by Old Steve I heard a good term for such thigh dentage: "hail damage". It can be used thusly: "Yeah, she was pretty hot looking until I saw her at the beach in a bikini....talk about hail damage...." Seemed appropraite. Feel free to spread it around. We call it "cottage cheese thighs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slambang Posted July 15, 2005 Members Share Posted July 15, 2005 I'm a big Tama user - my first "real kit" was a Tama Swingstar when I was eleven. Now, at 29, I'm still a fan (though I'm playing Yamaha drums ... go figure). Their hardware has let me down from time to time and it's always been the same problem. The threading on the various adjustments lets go. And it's always the female side that ends up getting pulled out of the tap. I was recently reminded of this when a cymbal arm that was about 10 years old died at a gig - can't really be upset ... it's a decade old. Though, I have seen it happen a few times. {censored} just gets tired. Probably happens to all manufacturers. Something to keep in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Duardo Posted July 16, 2005 Members Share Posted July 16, 2005 All of my drummer's Gibralter hardware looked like the back of Aunt Emma's thighs. Would your aunt happen to be Big Leg Emma? -Duardo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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