Members dehughes Posted November 26, 2005 Members Share Posted November 26, 2005 Hello all, I just purchased a NICE set of used Zildjian K hats, and want to know how best to prevent keyholing. I know of the plastic thingys for crash and ride stands, but is there something similar for the top hi hat cymbal? Thanks, david Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members headmasterchaos Posted November 27, 2005 Members Share Posted November 27, 2005 I might be way off here, but I've never heard of keyholing with hats. I am under the impression that keyholing only happens when cymbals on set at an angle and after extended periods of time, the metal poles wear into the cymbal at the point of the most stress. Since high hats are usually set flat, they should not keyhole. But yeah, anything that prevents metal-to-metal contact should reduce keyholing. I use the gibraltar plastic pole top things for all cymbals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yamistroker Posted November 27, 2005 Members Share Posted November 27, 2005 I have been trying different things to prevent the metal to metal contact on my hats. So far I have not had much luck. I don't understand why the manufatureres don't include a hard plastic piece similar to a regular cymbal arm.I have noticed that the hole in my top hat is getting larger. There has to be something available for this...anyone? Will one of these 8MM sleeves work?http://www.buy-safe.net/1-800-NEW-DRUM/www.drummaker.com/FMPro?-token=13224263&-db=DM_Products.fp5&-format=jumpbrowse.htm&-view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members armitage787 Posted November 27, 2005 Members Share Posted November 27, 2005 never had that problem with my hi-hat before, i would just say make sure that the hardware is tight so it cant rub and call it good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Old Steve Posted November 27, 2005 Members Share Posted November 27, 2005 Most keyholing comes from metal to metal contact IN THE SAME PLACE...so as a tilted cymbal rotates to the same spot, it'll keyhole if there's metal to metal contact. Hats are usually pretty level, so it's far less of an issue, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ulank Posted November 28, 2005 Members Share Posted November 28, 2005 Also, isn't the top hat usually sandwiched betwixt a clutch, meaning any sort of contact between the edge of the hole and shaft is essentially nill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dehughes Posted November 28, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 28, 2005 I've seen some hi-hats that exhibit some keyholing, and while I don't know how well they were treated I still don't want to risk damaging mine due to a cheap clutch, etc... Just asking, as it seems like there could be a plastic sleeve or somethign to slide over the threaded part of the clutch. david Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Old Steve Posted November 28, 2005 Members Share Posted November 28, 2005 I suppose if you're really worried, you could wrap the metal with some heavy duct tape or electrical tape, and then check it from time to time. Either that or find some appropriately sized plastic/aquarium tubing at the hardware store and buy an inch or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rolandtd8 Posted November 29, 2005 Members Share Posted November 29, 2005 This is a rare issue- mate you would have to have the set up for 5 years solid, without moving it and play it every day for those years for this wear, unless you use really cheap stuff! Dont worry- or get a Roland td8 like me, I dont have this prob! Tisk, tisk, me thinks you are worried bout nothing! It wont happen- chill out have a whiskey and remember how hard metal is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dehughes Posted November 29, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 29, 2005 That's cool. No biggie, but I know how little errors/oversights in the beginning can lead to not so good things later. Since $$$ is relatively tight, I gots to takes care of what l have. Thanks, david Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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