Members Darkstorm Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 Are in the minority. Very few violent rape victims commit suicide. Though a large percentage do suffer great psychological distress. Few commit suicide. When a child is violently raped its the responsibility of the parents and other adult authorities to make sure that child receives immediate attention and aid both physical & mental. Otherwise those adult and parents are being grossly neglectful. Children are largely more able to bounce back from trauma then adults are. Yet medical aid is still very very important. If a case occurred where a young teen was raped in full view of friends who took no action other then to laugh and point, the psychological aid and care would be even more important. I doubt any reasonable person would disagree. Theres far too many things missing in the story about teen girl fake raped by classmates while rest of class saw it as no big deal. And parents & school authorities took no action to render psychiatric aid to the girl immediately with close watch on her for extended time after the event took place? Some people do commit suicide after being violently raped despite being under psychatric care and watch afterwards. Such suicides are in the minority however. If the story about fake raped girl commited suicide is as poster wants us to believe. Then why the hell has no one questioned what medical aid was given? Including poster who says they have yrs in psych field? Why am I the only person who sees somethings wrong? Very few victims young or old of actual violent rape commit suicide. Irregardless of wether that rape was heterosexual or homosexual. In the story abot fake rape by teens on a teen, there is no way possible under any condition that the event went unknown to any but the victim and perpetuators. If the school and parents did not get her to doctors care pronto theyre guilty of gross neglect that contributed to the girl commiting suicide. Who disagrees and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fireball_73 Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 Originally posted by Darkstorm Are in the minority. Very few violent rape victims commit suicide. Though a large percentage do suffer great psychological distress. Few commit suicide. When a child is violently raped its the responsibility of the parents and other adult authorities to make sure that child receives immediate attention and aid both physical & mental. Otherwise those adult and parents are being grossly neglectful. Children are largely more able to bounce back from trauma then adults are. Yet medical aid is still very very important. If a case occurred where a young teen was raped in full view of friends who took no action other then to laugh and point, the psychological aid and care would be even more important. I doubt any reasonable person would disagree. Theres far too many things missing in the story about teen girl fake raped by classmates while rest of class saw it as no big deal. And parents & school authorities took no action to render psychiatric aid to the girl immediately with close watch on her for extended time after the event took place? Some people do commit suicide after being violently raped despite being under psychatric care and watch afterwards. Such suicides are in the minority however. If the story about fake raped girl commited suicide is as poster wants us to believe. Then why the hell has no one questioned what medical aid was given? Including poster who says they have yrs in psych field? Why am I the only person who sees somethings wrong? Very few victims young or old of actual violent rape commit suicide. Irregardless of wether that rape was heterosexual or homosexual. In the story abot fake rape by teens on a teen, there is no way possible under any condition that the event went unknown to any but the victim and perpetuators. If the school and parents did not get her to doctors care pronto theyre guilty of gross neglect that contributed to the girl commiting suicide. Who disagrees and why? Cut your losses man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Kashue Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 Originally posted by Darkstorm Theres far too many things missing in the story about teen girl fake raped by classmates while rest of class saw it as no big deal. There are far too many things missing, but you're perfectly confident saying the things you have? You've moved from merely offensive and ill-conceived to (explicitly) unfounded and internally inconsistant... Congratulations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 Man, that foot just keeps getting deeper - one would think it'd be a difficult task, with your head so far up your ass and all... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RyCLB Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 Originally posted by Fireball_73 Cut your losses man! +1 Give this one up man. You're not getting anywhere with this argument... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 wait, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassopotamus Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 Why are you so hellbent on shifting blame away from the students who acted and those who watched? First you blame the girl (and question her psychic make up) then question the lack of medical response (which would contradict your eariler point). Seems like you want to blame anyone but the culprits. Give it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 The only person responsible for a suicide is the person who kills themself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 What's your point ?You ask if we agree but I can't find one in your blabber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members i_wanna_les_paul Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 Originally posted by Jugghaid The only person responsible for a suicide is the person who kills themself. +1 We all face problems. We have a choice in how we react to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 Originally posted by Jugghaid The only person responsible for a suicide is the person who kills themself. Yes, in the same way that drug dealers aren't responsible for overdoses. It's entirely possible to agree with this point of view. It only takes a good pair of blinkers to narrow your view of the landscape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 Lots of victims are consumed by shame, ESPECIALLY when they are confronted by the Darkstorms of the world who would have them believe that they did it to themselves. I agree, she shouldn't have killed herself, but I wasn't there to tell her that, and apparently nobody in her family was, either.C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lokidecat Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 Originally posted by Jugghaid The only person responsible for a suicide is the person who kills themself. IAWTC Personal responsibility for the win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members beam Posted October 27, 2006 Members Share Posted October 27, 2006 What the {censored} was the point in starting a new thread on this topic?The "Post Reply" button not working for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike in Utica Posted October 28, 2006 Members Share Posted October 28, 2006 Originally posted by beam What the {censored} was the point in starting a new thread on this topic?The "Post Reply" button not working for you? Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted October 28, 2006 Members Share Posted October 28, 2006 this is a perfect example of why i listed him as the only person on this forum i would not like to meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted October 28, 2006 Members Share Posted October 28, 2006 actually it was dark slide i listed but this guy just got added to the list.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted October 28, 2006 Members Share Posted October 28, 2006 Originally posted by Jazz Ad Yes, in the same way that drug dealers aren't responsible for overdoses.It's entirely possible to agree with this point of view. It only takes a good pair of blinkers to narrow your view of the landscape. Drug dealers are not responsible for overdoses. Any more than vineyards are responsible for alcohol poisoning or drunk driving. The only difference is one is legal. And if my view of the landscape is narrowed to the point where I accept responsibility for my own actions rather than blame them on someone else, then I'm fine with that. I havent' seen too many drug dealers FORCING people to take drugs. They do that all on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted October 28, 2006 Members Share Posted October 28, 2006 My point exactly Juggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted October 28, 2006 Members Share Posted October 28, 2006 Originally posted by Jazz Ad My point exactly Juggs. I wasn't sure if you were disagreeing with me or not to be honest......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted October 28, 2006 Members Share Posted October 28, 2006 I disagree with you because I think it's a very narrow view. Your opinion is still perfectly valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Kashue Posted October 28, 2006 Members Share Posted October 28, 2006 Originally posted by Jugghaid Drug dealers are not responsible for overdoses. Any more than vineyards are responsible for alcohol poisoning or drunk driving. The only difference is one is legal.And if my view of the landscape is narrowed to the point where I accept responsibility for my own actions rather than blame them on someone else, then I'm fine with that. I havent' seen too many drug dealers FORCING people to take drugs. They do that all on their own. Yes, but this girl didn't choose to be sexually assaulted...She didn't decide "I'm going to go have some traumatic experience today"... She chose to commit suicide, but to compare her experience to that of a junkie who overdoses is flawed...Drug Dealers don't usually force themselves on people, these sexual assaulters did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted October 28, 2006 Members Share Posted October 28, 2006 You guys are still talking about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted October 29, 2006 Members Share Posted October 29, 2006 Originally posted by King Kashue Yes, but this girl didn't choose to be sexually assaulted...She didn't decide "I'm going to go have some traumatic experience today"...She chose to commit suicide, but to compare her experience to that of a junkie who overdoses is flawed...Drug Dealers don't usually force themselves on people, these sexual assaulters did... I agree. But the decision to commit suicide was still hers and hers alone. The whole thing is very sad, and I'd like to have those 5 {censored}heads alone in a room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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