Members xOriginalNinjax Posted May 11, 2007 Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 or I'm an absolute moron. I got new pots and a jack for my SX jazz..went to wire it all up...and then plugged it in after all was said and done. Nothing but a HORRRRRRRIBLE buzz. Couldn't get it to stop. So I unhooked the ground from the jack...then NO sound at all. No buzz, no noise from pots, nothin. There was a VERY faint sound when the ground was still connected...so wtf did I do wrong or screw up? I'm thinkin I somehow managed to burn up the pots or cap or somethin, since there were no wires touching and I had a point-point schematic right in front of me and checked every time before I soldered... I'm really peeved about this...I haven't had the jazz wired up in almost a month and I miss it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted May 11, 2007 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2007 Can you post pictures of your wiring? I'd be happy to look at it. It is highly unlikely that you burned up the cap (unless you can't solder ) and less likely you hurt the pots. We'll figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted May 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 Can you post pictures of your wiring? I'd be happy to look at it. It is highly unlikely that you burned up the cap (unless you can't solder ) and less likely you hurt the pots. We'll figure it out. Ok I'm really frustrated by this... And don't you love how my phone doesn't focus on the near objects? It focuses on the distant ones...sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted May 11, 2007 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2007 I'm going to go grab dinner and then I'll be back to tell you if I see anything. Too hungry to think right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted May 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 I'm going to go grab dinner and then I'll be back to tell you if I see anything. Too hungry to think right now... Hahaha, fair enough...I don't blame ya either...I had to eat afterwords from frustration...where are those cookies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jpark Posted May 11, 2007 Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 Those pics are pretty blurry, I doubt he'll be able to tell much from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted May 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 Those pics are pretty blurry, I doubt he'll be able to tell much from them. It's all I gots...and all I can do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members prosigna Posted May 11, 2007 Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 I cannot see anything in those pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted May 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 I cannot see anything in those pics. the only camera I have is on my phone...so I can't really do much about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted May 11, 2007 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2007 I think I see some problems. Can you send me your schematic you are working from? I wonder if there is something funny with it. I'll start typing my thoughts in another post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted May 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 From a different angle...trying to clear things up a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted May 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 I think I see some problems. Can you send me your schematic you are working from? I wonder if there is something funny with it. No actually, it's a paper copy..and I don't have a copier...lemme compare it to the Seymour one and see if there's a difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted May 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 Ok, the only difference is there's a wire going from the top (or third prong) of the bridge volume to the tone control. Then they have the ground connected to the tone pot and then by a wire to the jack. Those are the differences...everything else is the same, there's just those two wires. Should I try to wire those up and see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted May 11, 2007 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2007 Are the "hots" from both of your pickups attached to the wipers (middle lugs) of the two volume pots? That is the first major issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted May 11, 2007 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2007 Neck volume left: to left of bridge volumewiper: hot from pickupright: grounded Bridge volume left: to wiper of tone potwiper: hot from pickupright: grounded tone left:unusedwiper:to tip of jackright: grounded via cap output jack tip: from tone wipersleeve: grounded make sure the bridge is gounded - make sure the two pickups are grounded *it looks like the tip of the jack is unsoldered and the ring (ground) is connected to the wiper of the tone pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted May 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 Are the "hots" from both of your pickups attached to the wipers (middle lugs) of the two volume pots?That is the first major issue. Yes, they indeed are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted May 11, 2007 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2007 Yes, they indeed are. It was hard to see that connection on the neck pot. The good news is the jack is your real problem. That wasn't so bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted May 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 Neck volumeleft: to left of bridge volume-xwiper: hot from pickup-xright: grounded-see below on groundedBridge volumeleft: to wiper of tone pot-xwiper: hot from pickup-xright: grounded-how so? I have them wired from the 3rd lug to the pot itself...does it need more? There is an unshielded wire coming from the pickup that I also soldered there, does that ground?toneleft:unused-xwiper:to tip of jack-xright: grounded via cap-xoutput jacktip: from tone wiper-xsleeve: grounded-about to redo...I just ran a new ground wire as the old one had NO lead on it whatsoever...make sure the bridge is gounded - make sure the two pickups are grounded*it looks like the tip of the jack is unsoldered and the ring (ground) is connected to the wiper of the tone pot--which one should the wiper be attached to? the upper or lower lug? It honestly doesn't LOOK like it matters...but it may...I have it attached to the upper lug. See edits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willsellout Posted May 11, 2007 Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 I learned a long time ago soldering on pots is damned difficult. I ended up having cold solders and the bass wouldn't work. So I took it to Pete Hanewinckel and he fixed it and told me that you need to rough up the pots with sandpaper, then preheat them and then solder as quickly as possible. The more you screw with it, the less likely it will work. I don't know how good you are at soldering, but figured I'd toss in my .02 Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted May 11, 2007 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2007 Just switch the lugs you are using on the jack. The one that has the strip of metal that attaches to the inner sleeve of the jack is your ground. The one that is currently not being used is the one that attaches to the tip. If you pulled the jack out and looked at it from the side you would see how the tip connects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted May 11, 2007 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2007 I learned a long time ago soldering on pots is damned difficult. I ended up having cold solders and the bass wouldn't work. So I took it to Pete Hanewinckel and he fixed it and told me that you need to rough up the pots with sandpaper, then preheat them and then solder as quickly as possible. The more you screw with it, the less likely it will work. I don't know how good you are at soldering, but figured I'd toss in my .02Dan Absolutely true if the pots are annodized. In this case, it doesn't look like they were. But your point is a very good one. You could identify this by simply not being able to get any solder to do anything other than ball up on the top of the pot. If this ever happens, rough up the pot case with a razor blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted May 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 I learned a long time ago soldering on pots is damned difficult. I ended up having cold solders and the bass wouldn't work. So I took it to Pete Hanewinckel and he fixed it and told me that you need to rough up the pots with sandpaper, then preheat them and then solder as quickly as possible. The more you screw with it, the less likely it will work. I don't know how good you are at soldering, but figured I'd toss in my .02Dan Thanks for the tips...the only thing I MIGHT have done on one was screwed with one wire a little too much, but I pre-heated and heated at the joint, not the solder itself...I really think it has to be a swapped wire or something. Really appreciate all the help so far though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted May 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 Just switch the lugs you are using on the jack. The one that has the strip of metal that attaches to the inner sleeve of the jack is your ground. The one that is currently not being used is the one that attaches to the tip. If you pulled the jack out and looked at it from the side you would see how the tip connects. I noticed now...grrr... I feel dumb. Ok, I'm gonna resolder this, be back in a few and let ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted May 11, 2007 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2007 It'll be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willsellout Posted May 11, 2007 Members Share Posted May 11, 2007 I really need to get a nice soldering gun and learn to do it. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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