Members cwatson Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 How many of you guys use gating in a live situation be it to create room for say a kickdrum using a side chain trigger or just to reduce noise when your not playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 I gate when I use a lot of effects together, to avoid noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitargod0dmw Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 Never. I think they suck a lot of tone. I've tried a few before, but I've never been happy with the results... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnyswonger Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 I've used a gate on my EUB if the single coil is in a hostile environment, but as stated above unless you've got a real problem with something I'd leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaulyWally Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 I use a gate just so I can have more blinking lights on my rig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boscal45 Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 what exactly is gating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Robin Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 Drawmer gates on kick, rack, & floor toms when I mix. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cwatson Posted January 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 Basically it doesn't let a signal below a certain level (threshold set by you) pass. In an extreme situation say you said the threshold set to -10db and you played your bass which is putting out say -15db when you pluck lightly you would hear nothing coming from the speaker. if you say slapped the string and that put out -6db then you would hear it and as soon as the level drops below -10db the sound shuts off. thats a very basic description, you can also use them with a trigger which basically means they will (or will to some extent) or won't let sound through when the level of another signal eg kickdrum is above or below a certain threshold. i.e. you only hear bass when the kickdrum is hit, thats used mainly for bands in recording who cant keep time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaulyWally Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 what exactly is gating? A "Gate" (s.k.a. "Expander") is not necessarily an effect... but it goes in-line similar to effects. What it does, is only allow sound through if it reaches a certain volume (or threshold). Basically, it keeps unwanted noise from being sent to your amplifier... and eventually out your speakers. The most basic use for a gate, is if you have noise/hum coming from your instrument. You set the threshold on the gate somewhere between the volume of the noise and that of you playing on a string. So the gate closes when you're not playing, and you will not hear any buzz/hum through the speaker. When you pluck a string, it opens the gate, and allows that sound to come through. And the gate closes when you're done playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JacieFB Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 My old drummer has a GateX in his studio. He uses it to gate certain frequencies in addition to volume. (Really helpful with toms.) I suppose that could be helpful with bass guitar if there were certain frequencies that bugged you during certain parts. I definitely agree that it could be a tone suck. Seems like an EQ pedal would be more effective at what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boscal45 Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 so in a nutshell.... pass filters cut out certain frequencies completelycompressors keep the signal within a given db rangegates cut the signal if it goes outside the given db range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaulyWally Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 so in a nutshell.... pass filters cut out certain frequencies completely compressors keep the signal within a given db range gates cut the signal if it goes outside the given db range In a nutshell... yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boscal45 Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 cool, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bten Posted January 26, 2008 Members Share Posted January 26, 2008 My wizard gated a lot in EQ... huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted January 26, 2008 Members Share Posted January 26, 2008 A "Gate" (s.k.a. "Expander")Noise gate and expander are frequently grouped to work together but they're not the same effect at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sludgebass69 Posted January 26, 2008 Members Share Posted January 26, 2008 Noise gate and expander are frequently grouped to work together but they're not the same effect at all. O.k.....what's an expander? The bottom half of a compressor?.....ie., it raises the lower level signals without squashing the higher level signals????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 82Daion Posted January 26, 2008 Members Share Posted January 26, 2008 so in a nutshell....pass filters cut out certain frequencies completelycompressors keep the signal within a given db rangegates cut the signal if it goes outside the given db range Notch filters cut out certain frequencies completely, but otherwise you've got it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted January 26, 2008 Members Share Posted January 26, 2008 O.k.....what's an expander? The bottom half of a compressor?.....ie., it raises the lower level signals without squashing the higher level signals?????An expander boosts high levels and attenuates low levels, so it's a good tool to kill noise, just like noise gates.It's only a matter of compression ratio.between 0:1 and 1:1 it's an expanderAt 1:1 it does nothingFrom 2:1 to 10:1 it's a compressorOver 10:1 it's a limiterAbove 20:1 you have a peak limiter, or brick wall limiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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