Members skier4467 Posted February 21, 2005 Members Share Posted February 21, 2005 How bad is the Micron piano presets. Will they be drastically worse than my Casio CTK691?? If not I might trade the Casio in for the Micron! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SushiFugu Posted February 21, 2005 Members Share Posted February 21, 2005 The Micron is a Virtual Analog synthesizer, therefor it emulates classic vintage synths. Because of this it doesn't have.. well, any piano at all. It can't do them, except for so-so Electric Pianos (think Rhodes, etc) Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Amos Posted February 21, 2005 Members Share Posted February 21, 2005 so *that's* why the piano preset on my Minimoog sounds so terrible! Sheesh, you lay out large cash for an analog synth, you'd think they could give you at least 16MB of piano samples on it! sorry, I kid. analog subtractive synthesis (virtual or not) can certainly give you some good electric piano/organ noises, but it's not what you want for complex acoustic instrument emulation. It's like comparing apples and sea cucumbers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clusterchord Posted February 21, 2005 Members Share Posted February 21, 2005 Exactly how bad are Micron's piano presets? it's like asking: "how bad is SUV for driving underwater?" VA and RA synths were not meant to do piano. at all. they do reasonable fake rhodes, clavinet and wurlie - but that's not their duty either. they do analog subtractive synth sounds, and all variants of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pagan Posted February 21, 2005 Members Share Posted February 21, 2005 Yes, it is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rauzi Posted February 21, 2005 Members Share Posted February 21, 2005 Even you casio does a better job man! that micron sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SushiFugu Posted February 21, 2005 Members Share Posted February 21, 2005 Originally posted by Rauzi Even you casio does a better job man! that micron sucks! By "sucks" you of course mean "designed for an entirely different task", right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members suitandtieguy Posted February 21, 2005 Members Share Posted February 21, 2005 so how's the vocoder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SushiFugu Posted February 21, 2005 Members Share Posted February 21, 2005 Originally posted by suitandtieguy so how's the vocoder? People will tell you it sucks. It doesn't. It just takes a bit of work to make it sound awesome. The real trick is to feed in a fair bit of pink noise, and to always use gritty waves. That's part of the problem with the vocoder presets, they all use these really weak kneed phasey stringy sounds, smooth sounds just won't vocode well for the most part, to get real understandable words you have to use dirty carriers. Conclusion: it's success as a vocoder is directly proportionate to how much time you spend making patches from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skier4467 Posted February 21, 2005 Author Members Share Posted February 21, 2005 I knew before asking that they are 2 different beasts (Rompler and Analog Synth). But I saw on the Micron presets that there are at least 2 piano patches so I wondered how those 2 were compared to Casio. Maybe it is worth using the Casio for Piano, Organ, Clav sounds and the Micron for Synth sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members suitandtieguy Posted February 21, 2005 Members Share Posted February 21, 2005 Originally posted by SushiFugu That's part of the problem with the vocoder presets, they all use these really weak kneed phasey stringy sounds, smooth sounds just won't vocode well for the most part, to get real understandable words you have to use dirty carriers. right now i key my Warpfactory from an Alpha Juno set to an octave of sawtooth waves with the filter opened all the way up and 0/0/100/0 envelopes for the VCA. i see no reason to use any other patch for vocoding. under these circumstances do you think the vocoder would sound good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pagan Posted February 22, 2005 Members Share Posted February 22, 2005 Originally posted by skier4467 Maybe it is worth using the Casio for Piano, Organ, Clav sounds and the Micron for Synth sounds. That's correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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