Members papamaverick Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 I've been on a quest for a while to nail that elusive Gilmour tone form "Comfortably Numb". I've had a Black Sovtek Big Muff for a while and just picked up the ICBM Fuzz from MusicToyz. I played around with it a bit yesterday, but had a chance to record some stuff tonight (my car's brakes are shot, so I'm grounded this saturday night...) I posted in an earlier thread that I was a bit disappointed with the ICBM when I first plugged it in, but was going to give it a second shot. This is that second shot. I've posted three clips on my filebox: Mystery Pedal 1 Mystery Pedal 2 Mystery Pedal 3 The tracks are me soloing on top of backing tracks to comfortably numb. I'm not trying to play 100% accurate, so don't get onto me about that At the end of each file is a clip of the pedal by itself with no backing track. These are gonna posted for a day or so for you guys to guess which is which. Now here's my setup. I have three mics setup: an e609 Silver jammed into the grillcloth centered on the speaker; a Marshall V67G large diaphram condensor 12 inches out and slightly off center, and a Nady RSM-2 ribbon directly below the V67. The tracks are all mixed with no effects, the e609 wide left, the V67 wide right, and the ribbon straight down the center. I'm playing a SRV strat with Bill Lawrence pickups, .012-.056 strings, and in the treble position. My amp is a Fender Deluxe Reverb reissue with gain = 5, treble = 9.5, bass = 5.5, reverb and vibrato off. I have a Keeley compressor on for all three tracks set at sustain = 2:30 and level = 12:00. (not necessarily in order of clips above) Option #1 is the Sovtek muff with tone = 8:00, sustain = max. Option #2 is the Sovtek muff with tone = min, sustain = max, and an EQ pedal boosting +6 @ 800Hz, +10 @ 1.6kHz. Option #3 is the ICBM with tone = 8:00, sustain = 12:00, and EQ pedal with same settings as option #2. I'd love to hear your guesses as to which is which and also which you prefer. Please don't mind my crappy playing. P.S. A few other notes: the ICBM absolutely needs an indicator light. There is simply no justification to be making boutique pedals without that necessary of a component. Also, the ICBM has a good deal more gain than the sovtek; that's why it was only set to 12:00 above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members j_hotch Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 My guess is: ICBM is the first clip. Not sure about the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilSoup Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 1. #22. #13. #3 I liked the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Leftside Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 #2#3#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbluetone Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 I like the first clip the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bushido Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 3rd clip sounds amazing.. can you pm me and tell me which pedal it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hemispheres Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 Don't forget to come back and tell us which one is which. I get the feeling that we will end up being surprised. Perhaps you will throw us off and reveal that clip one is in fact the ICBM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grueller Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 Originally posted by Leftside #2#3#1 that's what i'm thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papamaverick Posted October 2, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 Thanks for the responses. I'm actually surprised, my opinions were a bit different than some of yours. I'll post the results later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JeffreyCH Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 So papamaverick - the suspense is killing me. I just ordered one and it will be in my hands Thursday. Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wacopacco Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 i like clip 3 the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Arjae Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 They sound good. But the Gilmour tone lives in here.................. I will get some clips up soon as well as a review. I am still digesting how great Skreddy captured Gilmour in this little box! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Godin73 Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 The third sound is more open, but the differences are not shocking. It's a bit silly to guess between these three options... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papamaverick Posted October 2, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 Okay, time for results. The first clip was the Sovtek with tone control at minimum. The second clip was the ICBM. The third clip was the Sovtek with tone control a bit higher. Interesting, huh? Keep in mind the Sovtek has no mods; it's straight stock. [Well actually due to its crappy construction I had to resolder one of the leads, and I used some high end solder to get that tone. Cheap solder might have messed with the low end some ] The biggest difference is that there's a very pronounced midrange bump in the Sovtek. I go back and forth on whether I prefer the Sovtek or the ICBM, but probably 75% of the time I prefer the Sovtek. I'm probably gonna return my ICBM to MusicToyz. I'd love to try a Top Fuel once I get my money back from the ICBM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bushido Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 is that muff the $50 black one you can buy on music123? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papamaverick Posted October 2, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 Originally posted by bushido is that muff the $50 black one you can buy on music123? Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bushido Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 wow. im buying one immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papamaverick Posted October 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 3, 2005 bump for the monday morning crowd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted October 3, 2005 Members Share Posted October 3, 2005 One thing these clips don't show: how bad is the bypass on those big black muffs? Is it as horrid as the green? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSage Posted October 3, 2005 Members Share Posted October 3, 2005 Originally posted by RoboPimp One thing these clips don't show: how bad is the bypass on those big black muffs? Is it as horrid as the green? The newer ones are true bypass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted October 3, 2005 Members Share Posted October 3, 2005 Originally posted by MrSage The newer ones are true bypass. even the russian ones? Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JeffreyCH Posted October 3, 2005 Members Share Posted October 3, 2005 Just to add my input - I recently purchased a USA Big Muff reissue (true bypass) and was not satisfied at all with it. The pedal was very noisy and muddy in my opinion. Not very articulate. I'm looking forward to trying my ICBM when I receive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSage Posted October 3, 2005 Members Share Posted October 3, 2005 Originally posted by RoboPimp even the russian ones? Good to know. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hemispheres Posted October 5, 2005 Members Share Posted October 5, 2005 I have a black russian big muff and I love it. I have several other various types of muffs too that I love. I am also going to order another newer black one that is true bypass. I got one for the hell of it one day and I was surprised how good it sounded. These clips should be a testament to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Euthymia Posted October 5, 2005 Members Share Posted October 5, 2005 Sustain on the ICBM at noon, sustain on the others maxed? Well, I do like a pedal that can make a proper racket. :-) The "Comfortably Numb" solo seems to be the benchmark of Muffazoids....if anyone wants to lay down some Smashing Pumpkins, I'd love to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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