Members Help!I'maRock! Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by BillyGrahamCracker I'd put up the argument that it just might've been the Beasties if it isn't GnR. hmm...the band that broke rap into the mainstream as opposed to the band that paved the way for the grunge movement. (i've started making that connection lately. its a lyric thing, and a punk attitude thing. think more AIC and Soundgarden than Nirvana.) as for metallica, that's an entirely different matter. they didn't quite hit the mainstream until they started getting produced by Bob Rock. in other words, in 1987 my mother knew who GNR was because of "Sweet Child o' Mine". she didn't know who Metallica was because of "Master of Puppets". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thelonius Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by blaghaus ok, I'm listening to estranged. Its {censored}.I used to love that song. Is that the one that's like "nobody ever told ya baby how it was gonna be..." I remember liking that one. I wonder if it would hold up if I listened to it today. What a weird and cool time though. I was in high school and the same people I'd been in high school with that were all metal a few years back were now donning fishnet hose, flannels, doc martens, etc, and completely ignoring these records made by metal bands they used to like that were coming out (Dr. Feelgood), and rightfully so as there were bands putting out records that were just unbelievable....Jane's Addiction put out Ritual, Faith No More had come out with The Real Thing, but Use Your Illusion came out and it was the one record of those metal bands that was not ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by blaghaus ok, I'm listening to estranged. Its {censored}.I used to love that song. if it were 5 minutes long, it'd be great. IMO, the best song GNR ever did was "breakdown." talk about epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JETKING Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by JETKING the 1st 2 records really changed the way i thought about music, i was listening to alot of crap when i discovered GNR, after that i found the ramones, rose tattoo and many others Originally posted by gethsemane lol i forgot to mention that i was 11yrs old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blaghaus Posted November 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by Thelonius Is that the one that's like "nobody ever told ya baby how it was gonna be..." I remember liking that one. I wonder if it would hold up if I listened to it today. What a weird and cool time though. I was in high school and the same people I'd been in high school with that were all metal a few years back were now donning fishnet hose, flannels, doc martens, etc, and completely ignoring these records made by metal bands they used to like that were coming out (Dr. Feelgood), and rightfully so as there were bands putting out records that were just unbelievable....Jane's Addiction put out Ritual, Faith No More had come out with The Real Thing, but Use Your Illusion came out and it was the one record of those metal bands that was not ignored. People in my school listened to bon jovi and or some such {censored}. I remember getting teased in school because Zappa had died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blaghaus Posted November 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by Help!I'maRock! if it were 5 minutes long, it'd be great. IMO, the best song GNR ever did was "breakdown." talk about epic. Yesterdays is {censored}ing great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fernmeister Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Welcome to the jungleWe got fun 'n' gamesWe got everything you wantHoney we know the names....HAHAHAHAHAHA... too funny...Bunch of clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thelonius Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 So what's the verdict guys: Acoustic version of "You're Crazy" or Electric version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by fernmeister Welcome to the jungle We got fun 'n' games We got everything you want Honey we know the names.... HAHAHAHAHAHA... too funny... Bunch of clowns. that is one seriously {censored}ed up album. read the lyrics to "appetite" all the way through one day. the man was a drugged out, paranoid psychopathic sexual predator. if i have ever heard an album that lives up to its title, it is "appetite for destruction." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by Thelonius So what's the verdict guys: Acoustic version of "You're Crazy" or Electric version? i still can't play along cleanly with the electric version. its really {censored}ing fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blaghaus Posted November 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by Thelonius So what's the verdict guys: Acoustic version of "You're Crazy" or Electric version? {censored}, thats tough. Acoustic has an ace solo. Electric has the half time bits that just {censored}in rock like {censored}. Listening to the acoustic just as you posted that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kriegsemann Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 I dive G n' R this much: Slash can play and they were less irritating than most hair metal. But other than that, I can't stand them... Nor can I stand Velvet Revolver... It is just irritating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thelonius Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by fernmeister Welcome to the jungle We got fun 'n' games We got everything you want Honey we know the names.... HAHAHAHAHAHA... too funny... Bunch of clowns. I'm dissapointed. You're getting soft in your old age. Back in the day you'd have bypassed Jungle and gone straight in for the gold: they're out to get meThey won't catch meI'm {censored}in' innocentSo you can suck meBut in all fairness there's lots of classic albums by classic bands, a lot moreso than guns n' roses whose lyrics just don't hold up to scrutiny outside of the context of the music. WE GONNA GO....WALKIN' THROUGH THE PARK..EVERY DAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by Thelonius Back in the day you'd have bypassed Jungle and gone straight in for the gold: they're out to get meThey won't catch meI'm {censored}in' innocentSo you can suck me i never liked that tune because of the lyrics, i couldn't relate. but of course i can't relate. i've never done that many drugs and been that paranoid to think that "its so easy" would be a great second tune on an album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blaghaus Posted November 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by Thelonius I'm dissapointed. You're getting soft in your old age. Back in the day you'd have bypassed Jungle and gone straight in for the gold: they're out to get me They won't catch me I'm {censored}in' innocent So you can suck meBut in all fairness there's lots of classic albums by classic bands, a lot moreso than guns n' roses whose lyrics just don't hold up to scrutiny outside of the context of the music. WE GONNA GO....WALKIN' THROUGH THE PARK..EVERY DAY SEEEE MEEEE HIT YOUYOU FAL DOW-OW-OW-OWN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members #16 Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by jcn37203 Once they started working with orchestras and {censored}, it was dead. But Appetite was the bomb. I mean, just balls out rock and {censored}-you roll. My Michelle.Listen to that bass tone! SPITEFUL SONG!They are missed....Balls and attitude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riffdaddy Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Love Appetite. Love Illusion I. Love Live Era. One of the few post-seventies great guitar tandems. {censored}in' brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tommyn Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by blaghaus I'm not sure about that, I think you'd find someone like the Pixies might get that accolade. I'm not a big fan of the pixies btw. I just think once grunge came in, it killed GNR and its ilk. This reminds me of something very interesting a Professor of mine once said. This was my History of Rock and Roll class freshman year, and we were talking about hair metal dying and grunge coming in and his argument was that while most people saw Nirvana as the big mainstream band that killed hair metal, he thought it was really Guns n Roses. His arguments was that while GnR didn't look too much different they were an important departure because they moved the subject matter away from purely partying and decadence, and because they were a return to blues-based music. He was sort of a metal scholar and always made the point that metal was the first popular music in along time to be influenced by non-blues based music (classical stuff) and was really focused on virtuosity and the like. So when Gnr came out they were sort of went against that as and acted as a stepping stone to the even more stripped down music that came with grunge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MonkeyKnifeFighter Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by riffdaddy Love Appetite. Love Illusion I. Love Live Era. One of the few post-seventies great guitar tandems. {censored}in' brilliant. +1 ~MkF!"Your one in a million! Yes, that's what you are!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blaghaus Posted November 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by tommyn This reminds me of something very interesting a Professor of mine once said. This was my History of Rock and Roll class freshman year, and we were talking about hair metal dying and grunge coming in and his argument was that while most people saw Nirvana as the big mainstream band that killed hair metal, he thought it was really Guns n Roses. His arguments was that while GnR didn't look too much different they were an important departure because they moved the subject matter away from purely partying and decadence, and because they were a return to blues-based music. He was sort of a metal scholar and always made the point that metal was the first popular music in along time to be influenced by non-blues based music (classical stuff) and was really focused on virtuosity and the like. So when Gnr came out they were sort of went against that as and acted as a stepping stone to the even more stripped down music that came with grunge. makes a lot of sense. I just wonder how direct that correlation was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tommyn Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by blaghaus makes a lot of sense. I just wonder how direct that correlation was. Yea, I mean I definitely don't know if I think that's exactly itr, but it does seem to have something to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fernmeister Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by Thelonius I'm dissapointed. You're getting soft in your old age. Back in the day you'd have bypassed Jungle and gone straight in for the gold: they're out to get me They won't catch me I'm {censored}in' innocent So you can suck meBut in all fairness there's lots of classic albums by classic bands, a lot moreso than guns n' roses whose lyrics just don't hold up to scrutiny outside of the context of the music. WE GONNA GO....WALKIN' THROUGH THE PARK..EVERY DAY sure it is not my strongest critique. however, guns and roses are so unrelentingly poor and assinine that I am loathe to put in any more effort on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members palthegiraffe Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 GNR were huge when I was in high school (I'm 34). But at that time, I was so far into the punk world that I didn't even notice bands like that. I lumped it in with the other commercial music I didn't listen to, and it had no real effect on me or my guitar playing at all. But I am now married to someone five years younger than me, and she was really into GNR back then. So I've been forced to hear it again, and damn if "Axl" Rose's voice doesn't make me want to jump through a window. Screeching, nasal, whiny at times...it's like the DOD Supra Distortion of human voices. I can't get past his singing to even pay attention to the actual music. I'm sure Slash is a good guitar player and all; it's just hard for me to hear him with that voice in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Originally posted by palthegiraffe "Axl" Rose's voice...it's like the DOD Supra Distortion of human voices. lol. but very true. axl couldn't sing for {censored}. but what came out of his body typified what he was singing about. for me, it just rings true in the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 4Kenoath Posted November 3, 2005 Members Share Posted November 3, 2005 Finally some of you are making sense......Axl Rose was the Robert Plant of the late 80's and early 90's, except with much poorer songs behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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